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Subject: Re: [office] about default values

Hi Mingfei

Ming Fei Jia wrote:
> Dear TC members,
> Just after attended the TC call, about the default values, I know ODF TC 
> is collecting default values info from kinds of products, I also know 
> this issue seems lasting several months. In the wiki I have seen KOffice 
> and OpenOffice already posted partial default values, and maybe there 
> will be more postings. As I understand, the requirement of collecting 
> default values is to unite default values in ODF spec. And currently for 
> the same attribute, the default value in different products may be 
> different. For example, the default value of "fo:auto-grow-height" in 
> OpenOffice is "true", but in Lotus Symphony, the default value is 
> "false". And I personally think "false" should be more reasonable. So my 
> question is: next step,what ways or what rules will be better for TC to 
> process these collected default values? Public review, meeting 
> discussion or anything else?

We have not discussed that yet, but I would suggest that someone goes
through the defaults and suggest what the default values should be for
each individual property, based on the values the vendors provided. The
other TC members then need to check this proposal, and have to complain
if one of the proposed values seem not to be reasonable to them, so that
we can discuss these values in detail.

But your question alerted me about something else that I have not
noticed before: What we are looking for are the values that are used if
a document does not specify a default value itself. But we have created
the list of OpenOffice.org defaults by saving an empty document that we
have created in OpenOffice.org. In these documents, the defaults may
differ from those that are used at import time, because we set a few
default values explicitly while creating new documents, which aren't set
when importing documents, unless the documents specifies a default
itself. This is the case if the default we want to have for new
documents has changed, or can be assumed to be a non standard one. So, I
think we have to redo the generation of a default value list for OOo by
starting with a document that does not define defaults, importing that
into OOo, and by saving it again. I would not be surprised if the
default value for "fo:auto-gow-height" changes to "false" in OOo, too.

Best regards


> Best Regards,
> Mingfei Jia()
> IBM Lotus Symphony Development
> IBM China Software Development LAB, Beijing
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