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Subject: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-01-21

* Rollcall
Mingfei Jia, IBM
Robert Weir, IBM
Patrick Durusau
David Wheeler
David Faure, KDE e.V.
Florian Reuter, Novell
Bob Jolliffe, South Africa Dept. of Science & Technology
Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems (presiding)
Eike Rathke, Sun Microsystems
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann, Sun Microsystems

* Minutes from 2008-01-28 coordination call:

The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes.

* Action Items
- (Not completed) Work continues on defining the default values.  Ma Yue
is working on collecting values from Lotus Symphony.  -- Rob and Helen
to follow up with Ma.

- (Completed) Oliver is working on text field proposal: Status is below

- (completed) Feedback is being sought from David Faure

- (completed) bullet lists with constant strings: Status is below.

- (in progress) Florian will check with Ecma to see if disposition of
DIS 29500 comments regarding date counting conventions can
be made public and sent to the ODF TC: Florian reported that the
disposition of these comments can be made public, but the comment
numbers mentioned by Rob seem not be related to date counting
conventions. Rob will follow-up with Florian to find the proper comment

* WG effort in DIN on defining a mapping between ODF 1.0 and Ecma-376

Rob has send a couple of questions to the WG to get a more information
about the effort. The TC will await the answers of the WG before
continuing the discussion.

* Accessibility Guidelines Document

The Accessibility Guidelines document currently has not conformance
clause section, which all documents for which a Committee Specification
ballot is conducted must have. For informative documents like
accessibility guidelines, it is however sufficient if the conformance
clause section states that there are no conformance clauses.

The TC anonymously agreed to add the following Conformance clause section:

"This document is intended to be an implementation guide, and contains 
no formal conformance clauses."

* Proposals, as listed at

- text input field:

The proposal has been withdrawn by Oliver and Florian, but they intent
to submit a more general proposal for fields for a post ODF 1.2 version.

To simply the discussion, it was suggested to have a Wiki page where
post ODF 1.2 ideas may be discussed

(new action item) Michael to set up a Wiki page

- source tables for charts
The current proposal to have a xlink:href attribute which allows
references into the current package seems to be sufficient:


A voting on this proposal may take place in the next meeting.

- Chart legends

The current proposal to allow text:p elements within the chart:legend
element seems to be sufficient:


A voting on this proposal may take place in the next meeting.

- Bullet lists with constant strings

ODF supports bullet lists with constant strings by setting the numbering
prefix to the constant string value, and a numbering format "no-number". 
An enhancement for for ODF 1.2 therefore is not required.

- Automatic Style Names

The current proposal is ambiguous regarding the use of the term 
"document". Michael will revise the proposal.

Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering
Sun Microsystems GmbH             Nagelsweg 55
D-20097 Hamburg, Germany          michael.brauer@sun.com
http://sun.com/staroffice         +49 40 23646 500

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Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering

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