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Subject: Re: [office] ODF 1.2 specification draft 7 - further review results ofMichael Stahl


Patrick,

I saw this request only after having send out the agenda for today, but 
we may add this to the agenda of the call next Monday. Actually, Oliver 
is back than. This may be helpful.

Michael

On 11/07/08 14:05, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> Oliver,
> 
> Finally! ;-)
> 
> Michael: Can you add the issue of deprecation/removal of the attribute 
> text:continue-numbering for text:numbered-paragraph to the TC agenda? 
> (see below for details) The other matters were purely editorial changes. 
> Thanks.
> 
> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote:
>> Dear TC members,
>>
>> below you will find some more comments from a further review of my Sun 
>> colleague Michael Stahl:
>>
>> 18.855 style:type
>>
>> formatting of the list is wrong.
>>
>> the following description is missing:
>>
>> <quote>
>> If the value of this attribute is left, the style:position attribute must
>> also be used. Otherwise, this attribute must be omitted.
>> </quote>
>>
> Actually that was listed under
> 
> |<text:index-entry-tab-stop>|
> 
> Now set as a paragraph.
> 
>>
>> 18.858 style:use-window-font-color
>>
>> <quote>
>> should be as used as the foreground color
>> </quote>
>>           ^^ spurious
>>
>>
> Yes.
>> 18.859 style:vertical-align
>>
>> <quote>
>> * baseline
>> </quote>
>>   ^^^^^^^^ not formatted as value
>>
>> <quote>
>> * <style:section-properties>
>> </quote>
>>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this should be: column-sep
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not formatted as element
>>
>> <quote>
>> * <style:table-cell-properties>
>> </quote>
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not formatted as element
>>
>>
> Reformatted.
>> 18.859.1 style:vertical-pos
>>
>> this should be labeled 18.860.
>>
>>
> Yes.
>> 18.860 style:vertical-rel
>>
>> maybe there should be a reference to style:vertical-pos, which explains
>> the possible values. right now, the two are on the same page.
>>
> Yes, I have inserted a reference.
>>
>> 18.862 style:width
>>
>> the elements are not formatted as elements.
>>
> Reformatted.
>>
>> 18.863 style:wrap
>>
>> imho the "run-through" value's description should have a reference to the
>> style:run-through attribute.
>>
> I can see why it is related but can you say what having the reference 
> adds to the description here?
>>
>> 18.867 style:writing-mode
>>
>> the whole list is formatted all wrong
>>
>> the following definition of the "page" value is missing:
>>
>> <quote>
>> This value specifies that the writing mode is inherited from the page 
>> that
>> contains the paragraph.
>> </quote>
>>
> Restored.
>>
>> 18.1011 table:is-sub-table
>>
>> </quote>
>> A nested table that is not a specified to be a subtable
>> </quote>
>>                           ^^^ spurious
>>
> Done.
>>
>> 18.1109 text:animation-direction
>>
>> nothing is said about possible values.
>>
> True, was in the schema fragment of the original text, restored.
>>
>> 18.1111 text:animation-start-inside
>>
>> <quote>
>> specifies if a text animation starts inside or outside a shape.
>> </quote>
>>
>> <quote>
>> the shapes bounding rectangle.
>> </quote>
>>          ^ missing apostrophe
>>
> Done.
>>
>> 18.1113 text:animation-stop-inside
>>
>> why is this different from what is written in 18.1111:
>>
>> <quote>
>> specifies if text animation stops inside a shape or inside the 
>> bounding rectangle of a shape.
>> </quote>
>>
>> further:
>>
>> <quote>
>> If it is false, the text stops its animation just outside the shapes 
>> bounding rectangle.
>> </quote>
>>
>> <quote>
>> the shapes bounding rectangle.
>> </quote>
>>          ^ missing apostrophe
> No idea. I have conformed the two.
>>
>>
>> 18.1114 table:automatic-find-labels
>>
>> this should be text:automatic-find-labels
>>
> No, actually right name, duplicate entry!
> 
> Deleted.
>>
>> 18.1119 text:c
>>
>> the following text is missing:
>>
>> <quote>
>> A missing text:c attribute is interpreted as meaning a single SPACE 
>> character.
>> </quote>
>>
> Added.
>>
>> 18.1126 text:class-names
>>
>> <quote>
>> A text:class-names attribute specifies a whitespace separated list
>> of paragraph style names.
>> </quote>
>>    ^^^^^^^^^ actually, this is only true if the attribute occurs on 
>> text:p or text:h; if it occurs on text:span, then the styles are text 
>> styles
>>
> Thanks! I didn't know that. Will split that one out.
> 
> BTW, since "paragraph" style name is a reference to the value of a 
> style:family attribute then it should be formatted as an attribute 
> value. Yes?
> 
> I don't think the current draft is consistent in that regard.
>> <quote>
>> If both, text:style-name and text:class-names are present,
>> </quote>
>>        ^ spurious comma
>>
> Done.
>>
>> 18.1127 text:column-name
>>
>> <quote>
>> specifies the column name from which to display data.
>> </quote>
>>
>> well, we don't display the data from the column name. maybe better:
>>
>> specifies the name of the column from which to display data.
>>
> Corrected to: "specifies the name of the column from which data is 
> displayed."
>>
>> 18.1132 text:cond-style-name
>>
>> broken reference:
>>
>> <quote>
>> See /ref:<style:map>/
>>
>> </quote>
>>
> Oh, no, sorry, remnant of an early attempt at auto-generating 
> references. Correct insertion made.
>>
>> 18.1133 text:condition
>>
>> <quote>
>> * <text:section>
>> </quote>
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not formatted as element
>>
>> <quote>
>> * <text:database-next>, ...
>> </quote>
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all not formatted as element
>>
>> <quote>
>> if the result interpreted as a Boolean value is true
>> </quote>
>>                          not formatted as value ^^^^
>>
>> <quote>
>> * <style:text-properties>
>> </quote>
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ not formatted as element
>>
> Done.
>>
>> 18.1137 text:continue-numbering
>>
>> i have a more substantial problem with this attribute. using it on 
>> text:list is all well and good, but why is it applicable to 
>> text:numbered-paragraph?
>>
>> in ODF 1.2, text:numbered-paragraph has a mandatory attribute 
>> text:list-id. all numbered-paragraphs with the same list-id belong to 
>> the same list. it is necessary to use an attribute, because the 
>> numbered-paragraphs of a list may be interspersed with other elements.
>> if a list represented as a text:list would be interspersed in this 
>> way, we would have several text:list elements with continue-list 
>> attributes and (maybe) continue-numbering.
>> but numbered-paragraphs have list-id, and thus continue-numbering is 
>> completely redundant.
>> (note that i implemented numbered-paragraph import for OOo 3.1, and it 
>> just ignores this attribute)
>>
>> can we deprecate, or better, remove the text:continue-numbering 
>> attribute on text:numbered-paragraph in ODF 1.2?
>>
> Well, that is a TC issue. We can certainly deprecate the use of this 
> attribute on text:numbered-paragraph in ODF 1.2. (I would need to break 
> it out so we can leave it for text:list.
> 
> I don't have an opinion on what impact it removal would have on 
> backwards compatibility.
>>
>>
>> 18.1143 text:date-adjust
>>
>> <quote>
>> The text:date-adjust attribute
>> </quote>
>>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is not formatted as an attribute
>>
> Done.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend!
> 
> Patrick
> 


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