Re: Data Grid Size element proposal

["Andreas J. Guelzow" <aguelzow@math.concordia.ab.ca>]

On 11/28/2008, "Leonard Mada" <discoleo@gmx.net> wrote:

>Dear TC Members,
>
>while reading the discussion, I have to express my dismay to the
>proposal and more broadly to the various spreadsheet concepts. It seems
>little has been learned from past mistakes.
>
>Warren Turkal wrote:
>[...]
>> This doesn't seem useful to me. If I never address anything in those
>> cells that are outside my range, I'd say it's pretty likely I don't
>> care about them, and just knowing the max row/col size of the saving
>> application doesn't tell you that.


That's not simply not true: If I know the grid size of teh saving
application I can determine whether ever any cell outside the grid was
accessed or the "wrapping" feature was used.

If I don't know the grid size I cannot do that.

>[see http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200811/msg00138.html]
>
>I must strongly back up Warren on this one.
>
>Lets say it this way: suppose I have a spreadsheet program WITHOUT any
>grid-size limit (because it implements a very clever iterative mechanism
>- making it virtually infinitely wide). I create a 2 columns by 2 rows
>spreadsheet. BUT this one is virtually non-openable in any other
>program! 

Why would it not be openable?

>This is again wrong logic. The application does NOT want to know the
>MAX_GRID_SIZE, BUT the *actual spreadsheet size*!

The application can easily figure out the actual spread sheet size. It
cannot figure out the maximum size which may affect the evaluation of
formulas.
>
>So IF the TC is clever it will follow Apple's approach, and limit the
>spreadsheet size to its actual size, and not limit the application.

Nobody is suggesting to limit any application. Where do you get that idea?

 Andreas Guelzow