Re: DSigProposal references

["Bob Jolliffe" <bobjolliffe@gmail.com>]

Hi Patrick

Jomar and I both think the note form works well.  It better captures
the fact that we
are not proposing doing anything which is outside xml dsig.  I will change it.

Regards
Bob

2009/1/6 Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>:
> Bob,
>
> Bob Jolliffe wrote:
>>
>> Hello Patrick
>>
>> Further to this afternoon's discussion I have added references to the
>> ETSI XAdES standard and the W3C XML-DSIG (courtesy of Dennis).  You
>> can check what I have here:
>> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/DSigProposal.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks!
>>
>> I'm also not sure about the URI to one-hop-from-what-you-really-want.
>> I've fudged by saying "available via http://.."; instead of "available
>> at".  Feels a bit like cheating, but this is the reference the ETSI TC
>> gave us.  It looks like you can bypass the whole rigmarole and go
>> straight to http://pda.etsi.org/exchangefolder/ts_101903v010302p.pdf
>> but perhaps they want readers to read the copyright notice and the
>> blurb first.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, the direct access works but I don't have a serious problem with getting
> users to read their blurb. ;-)
>
> To some degree it is a question of changing practice. To give a URL really
> is a convenience to the reader, it doesn't really constitute a reference to
> the work. That is the digital signature standard would exist whether I can
> access it via http or if I have to request a paper copy. Which would be
> ironic but not unknown. ;-)
>
> BTW, with your current text:
>
>> "Files within a package may have digital signatures applied. These digital
>> signatures *shall* conform to the W3C XML Digital Signature specification
>> [xml-dsig]. Applications *may* use extensions to the XML DSIG core
>> specification, such as those required for implementation of XAdES signatures
>> specified in ETSI TS 101 903 v1.3.2 [xades]. Digital signatures are stored
>> in one or more files within the META-INF folder."
>
> My suggestion was:
>
> "Files within a package may have digital signatures applied. These digital
> signatures *shall* conform to the W3C XML Digital Signature specification
> [xml-dsig].
>
> Note: Applications may use extensions to the XML DSIG core specification,
> such as those required for implementation of XAdES signatures specified in
> ETSI TS 101 903 v1.3.2 [xades]. **
>
> Digital signatures are stored in one or more files within the META-INF
> folder."
>
> Reasoning that the permissive "may" is actually defined by the W3C
> specification and not ODF.
>
> It is a minor point and if you prefer the full paragraph style I have no
> serious issue with it. It may be more acceptable to the interests who want
> this feature to be stated that way.
>
> Hope you are having a great day!
>
> Patrick
>
>
> --
> Patrick Durusau
> patrick@durusau.net
> Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
> Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
> Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
> Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
>
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