Re: [office] sub chapter <office:dde-source> in chapter <text:section>lost in ODF 1.2 draft 7-13

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems<Oliver-Rainer.Wittmann@Sun.COM>]

Hi Patrick,

Ok, got it.
Thank you for your patience.

Best regards, Oliver.


Patrick Durusau wrote:
> Oliver,
> 
> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems wrote:
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> sub chapter <office:dde:source> in chapter <text:section> is lost 
>> between ODF 1.2 draft 7-11 and ODF 1.2 draft 7-12.
>> I also did not found its content any more in the rest of the ODF 1.2 
>> draft 7-13.
>> Any reason why this sub chapter including its content has been deleted?
>>
> The "content" or "information" was *not* deleted.
> 
> See (in ODF 1.2 draft 7-12) section 4.4.1.
> 
>  From 7-11 the section you ask about:
> 
> ****
> The |<office:dde-source> element represents DDE linking information for 
> a linked section.|
> 
> |Note:|| |Because a DDE linked section contains the XML rendition of the 
> DDE link's content, this information only needs to be processed if 
> updated data from the DDE link are desired.
> 
> Ed. Note This should be true for <text:section-source> as well. So why 
> say it for one and not the other?
> 
> ****
> 
> Note the editor's note.
> 
> Then, in 7-12 (and following) also at 4.4.1
> 
> *****
> 
> Sections support two ways of linking to external content. If a section 
> is linked to another document, the link can be through one of the 
> following:
> 
>    *
> 
>      A resource identified by an XLink, represented by a
>      |<text:section-source>| element
> 
>    *
> 
>      Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE), represented by a
>      |<office:dde-source>| element
> 
> The |<text:section-source>| or |<office:dde-source>| elements occur only 
> in the alternative and then as the first child element of a 
> |<text:section>| element.
> 
> A section that links to external content contains a full representation 
> of the data, so that processors need to understand the linking 
> information only if they wish to update the contents of the section.
> 
> *****
> 
> So while it is true that the subsection itself does not appear verbatim 
> the same, the information that it was meant to convey is more usefully 
> (at least in my view) reported to potential readers of the specification.
> 
> Unless you wish to suggest that the semantics of the <office:dde-source> 
> element, despite being defined once in the schema are different when the 
> element occurs in sections versus tables? See 13.6.6 under common 
> content for a fuller description of the element.
> 
> I freely concede that the process of defining every element and 
> attribute once makes proofing (for this round) more difficult and I work 
> with several versions open at the same time, but in the long run knowing 
> that if an element or attribute definition change must be made that 
> while its impact must be traced out that we can make a change confident 
> that is the only place where the change need be made, I think will help 
> the TC as it continues to develop ODF.
> 
> Imagine editing an XML schema where "combine" was implied so you don't 
> know if you have found all the parts of a definition or not. Add to that 
> the assumption that there are multiple ways to speak of the same 
> element. And you may or may not know all of them. Just as you would want 
> to avoid that for the schema, I want to avoid the same thing for the 
> prose text.
> 


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