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Subject: Conformance Clauses: Building consensus around ODF 1.2
Hi Doug, with some interest, I have read your blog regarding conformance clauses. http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2009/02/19/building-consensus-around-odf-1-2.aspx I would like to comment on a few things. I'm doing this here rather than as a reply to your blog, because I honestly believe that discussions between TC members regarding the conformance clauses or other topics that are related to the text of the ODF specification belong into the TC, but not into blogs. This also applies to questions regarding TC meeting agendas, meeting minutes or processes. So, first of all, then reading your blog, I got the impression that the current conformance clauses would contain only one level. You are probably aware of this, but I anyway would like to point out that the current proposal contains two levels. One allows the so called foreign elements, the other does not. You further state that the conformance "clause was inserted into a committee draft at the last minute". It was not. When uploading draft 8j on the 11th, Patrick clearly stated that the conformance clauses have been integrated. We have TC calls every Monday. Something that happens on a Wednesday before a meeting, and before the agenda of a meeting itself has been send out, in my opinion does not happen "in the last minute", but happens in full alignment with our usual notification periods. Regarding reaching consensus: In order to reach consensus on the conformance clauses, it is essential to understand what the concerns of those are who disagree, and also to get proposals what needs to be changed in order to make the conformance clauses acceptable. I have asked several times for specific feedback to the individual clauses, but did not get much feedback. The feedback that I got has been to the best of my knowledge integrated into the proposal. In so far, it is not clear, at least to me, where your concerns are. I further have asked for feedback from those who did not agree to the committee draft last Monday in the TC call, but unfortunately did not get any feedback so far. You announced that you will explain your position in more detail, and I'm looking forward to read this on the TC's mailing list. I further would be glad to receive specific suggestions how the current conformance clauses have to be modified to get your acceptance. Knowing which specific modification you would like to see for the text of the conformance clauses would be very helpful and I think essential to figure out whether the TC can reach a consensus regarding the conformance clauses, or not. Best regards Michael OpenDocument TC co-chair -- Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering StarOffice/OpenOffice.org Sun Microsystems GmbH Nagelsweg 55 D-20097 Hamburg, Germany michael.brauer@sun.com http://sun.com/staroffice +49 40 23646 500 http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB 161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering
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