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Subject: RE: [office] Groups - OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01 -- Schemas?


Hi Doug,

  Your interpretation of the rules is correct. After the vote a new iteration of the current working draft should be created that is properly identified as Committee Draft 01 along with the date of approval, in each of the required formats, as well as any approved schemas, DTDs, etc.

  The TC has not, as of yet, submitted the CD for Public Review (according to the notice the expected date is end of April). At this point (or any point in time in the life of a TC) all documents, emails, meeting minutes, etc. are publicly available and people are welcome to submit comments; when I receive a formal Public Review request I first complete a checklist of a couple dozen items to make sure the specs conform to our rules and then announce the review to our membership as well as any other lists that may be appropriate. Members and non-members alike are encouraged to forward that notice as appropriate.


Regards,

mary


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Mahugh [mailto:Doug.Mahugh@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:52 PM
> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
> Cc: office@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [office] Groups - OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01 --
> Schemas?
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I'm confused about the status of the document that was voted on last
> week.  In 2.18 Specification Quality (http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/process.php#specQuality), there is this sentence:
> 
> "All TC-approved versions of documents (i.e. Committee Drafts, Public
> Review Drafts, and Committee Specifications) must be delivered to the
> TC’s document repository in the (1) editable source, (2) HTML or XHTML,
> and (3) PDF formats; and the TC must explicitly designate one of those
> delivered formats as the authoritative document."
> 
> The minutes of the 2/16 meeting state that there was "Approval of
> OpenDocument v1.2 draft 9 as Committee Draft," so it sounds to me like
> we need to publish in the three formats listed above, which are
> required for Committee Drafts (as well as Public Review Drafts).  Is
> there a reason that sentence doesn't apply?  I mention this because
> we're proactively asking for public feedback on ODF v-next, and I
> assume we'd want to assure the broadest possible readership for the
> Committee Draft so that people can understand what's in it when they
> make their suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mary McRae
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:11 AM
> To: dennis.hamilton@acm.org; Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM
> Cc: patrick@durusau.net; office@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [office] Groups - OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01 --
> Schemas?
> 
> Just as an FYI, no official public review has been requested as of yet.
> I believe Patrick is still editing the specification. When the spec is
> ready, the TC will first approve it as a new committee draft and then
> approve submitting it for 60-day public review. The TC will need to
> provide me with the editable source, HTML, and PDF editions of the
> specification as well as all related files. Schemas/DTDs/etc must be in
> separate plain text files and verified by the TC to be valid/well-
> formed. The specification must meet the requirements set forth in the
> OASSI TC Process and conform to the OASIS templates and naming
> guidelines. Once approved, I then send out the notice and the official
> public review comment period begins.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mary
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:49 PM
> > To: Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM
> > Cc: patrick@durusau.net; office@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Mary McRae'
> > Subject: RE: [office] Groups - OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01 --
> > Schemas?
> >
> > My concern was the absence of anything in cd01 that identified the
> > schema that applies to it and that anyone treating cd01 as a
> "preview"
> > could use to know how to find the schema that goes with it.
> >
> > I hope that was cleared up on the call.  Of course I know where the
> > schema is.  I wasn't sure any onlookers would know where to look.
> > Also, any announcement Mary makes about there being a cd01, if that
> is
> > what she intends, should specify where the schema can be found.
> >
> > Does that clarify my concern?
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM [mailto:Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 00:21
> > To: dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> > Cc: patrick@durusau.net; office@lists.oasis-open.org; Mary McRae
> > Subject: Re: [office] Groups - OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01 --
> > Schemas?
> >
> > Dennis,
> >
> > I think you have found the schemas yourself already, as you copied
> from
> > them a few minutes ago.
> >
> > That the schemas are not mentioned in Patrick's mails has the simple
> > reason that Patrick has uploaded the draft, while I have uploaded the
> > schema. See
> >
> > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200902/msg00151.html
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On 02/23/09 03:43, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > > Um, what about the schemas.  There are no schemas in the document
> any
> > more, are we going to provide a copy of the schemas as of the version
> > of this draft?
> > >
> > >  - Dennis
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: patrick@durusau.net [mailto:patrick@durusau.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 07:05
> > > To: office@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: [office] Groups - OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01
> > (OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01.odt) uploaded
> > >
> > > Greetings!
> > >
> > > The first committee draft of ODF 1.2!
> > >
> > > Do note that this means we all need to re-double our efforts to
> proof
> > and
> > > resolve any issues (remaining or otherwise) that we see with the
> > text.
> > >
> > > Hope everyone is having a great week!
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >  -- Patrick Durusau*
> > >
> > > The document named OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01
> > > (OpenDocument-v1.2-committeeDraft-01.odt) has been submitted by
> > Patrick
> > > Durusau* to the OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications
> > > (OpenDocument) TC document repository.
> > >
> > > Document Description:
> > > The first committee draft of ODF 1.2.
> > >
> > > View Document Details:
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=31264
> > >
> > > Download Document:
> > > http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/download.php/31264/OpenDocument-
> > v1.2-committeeDraft-01.odt
> > >
> > >
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