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Subject: RE: [office] A question about text:span and styles


I think the important part of David's message is that, since ODF is not
HTML, we actually need to say what the rule is.  Absent a normative
statement, reasoning from similarity to some other specification is very
dangerous and certainly not something the standard should be written to rely

There is no crystal ball that says what the degree of similarity of
text:span with HTML <span> is.  I do think it is natural to assume that that
certain styles are "additive" when not contradictory, based on knowledge of
what HTML does, but I don't believe the ODF specification is explicit enough
about that in the text:span case.  I wonder how this works out in the in the
hierarchic resolution against default styles too. 

 - Dennis

PS: There is neither mention of HTML or reference to [HTML4] in conjunction
with the <text:span> element.  And many of the references to [HTML4} that
there are in ODF 1.1 (I just searched) are quite curious with regard to
"similar to" and the absence of normative clarity.  I find it particularly
intriguing that the HTML4 character of some elements is described as
applying to the use of an ODF document to make HTML documents with no
guidance on what that means for the ODF document itself.  Are these
restricted to occurring in the peculiar case of the "Text document used as
template for HTML documents" often having extension .oth and MIME Type
application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-web ?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM [mailto:Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 06:27
To: David Faure
Cc: 'office'
Subject: Re: [office] A question about text:span and styles


the <span> element has been adopted from HTML, and it was intended that 
it works like in HTML. Which means "thistext" should be bold+italic.

Best regards


On 02/27/09 14:48, David Faure wrote:
> In the following:
> <span style="italic">italic <span style="bold">thistext</span></span> 
> if the style called "bold" simply sets the character property bold=true
> doesn't derive from any other style, should the text "thistext" be
> only bold, or should it be bold+italic?
> I think it should be bold+italic, and testing in OpenOffice.org seems to
> this too, but the specification doesn't say much about style handling in
> nested spans, so there is a bit of controversy about this among koffice
> developers. Can we get a clear statement about the expected behavior
> and possibly a sentence in the spec?

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