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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] Commented: (OFFICE-1820) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34N 1078 : DEFECT REPORT NUMBER JP2-29



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Patrick Durusau commented on OFFICE-1820:
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Dennis/Andreas,

Please understand that I don't disagree that this particular section of ISO 26300 needs work, or that this section in ODF 1.2 can't be improved. 

However, having said that, defects are supposed to state with some detail the nature of the defect. So that I have some idea of what response would satisfy the concern. Simply saying "add diagrams" isn't enough for anyone to formulate a meaningful response. 

That may seem like a petty point to insist on but I am really reluctant to encourage "this section isn't understandable without using OpenOffice..." sort of comments.

For example, if the comment had said: "It is implied by draw:placing ("The draw:placing attribute specifies whether the measure line is rendered below or above the edge defined by the two reference points.") that a measure line always has a horizontal orientation. For the values "above" and "below" to be meaningful. See also draw:measure-line, also implying a horizontal placement. However, the standard fails to explicitly state that all measure lines are in fact horizontal."

That is a defect that I can analyze and answer.

To put it another way, I really, really, dislike vague reports of defects. I won't name the national body but some are bad about "....here and elsewhere in the text." Well, if you know where "...elsewhere in the text." is it would be far more helpful to say.  

> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34 N 1078 : DEFECT REPORT NUMBER 	JP2-29
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFFICE-1820
>                 URL: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-1820
>             Project: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: ODF 1.0 (second edition)
>            Reporter: Robert Weir 
>            Assignee: Patrick Durusau
>             Fix For: ODF 1.0 Errata 02
>
>
> Transcribed from http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/sc34/open/1078.htm
> Original author: "MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given)" <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
> DEFECT REPORT NUMBER 	JP2-29
> QUALIFIER 	clarification required
> REFERENCES IN DOCUMENT 	Clause 15.20
> NATURE OF DEFECT 	This subclause is understandable only if the reader uses OpenOffice and examines the output. Such descriptions are very inappropriate as ISO/IEC standards.
> SOLUTION PROPOSED BY THE SUBMITTER 	Add diagrams and explain "reference points", "measure line", "guides", and so forth.

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