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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] Commented: (OFFICE-1444) Public Comment:style:text-combine attribute (ODF all versions)

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Patrick Durusau commented on OFFICE-1444:

Yes, CSS3 was withdrawn and I am not sure it would help that much anyway.

For more recent work on Japanese Text Layout see: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-jlreq-20090604/

I suspect that W3C document is as good as it gets without having access to the definitive documents in Japanese.

Do note that for the kumimoji, ECMA-376 helpfully notes: "Specifies whether the numbers contained within vertical text will continue vertically with the text or whether they are to be displayed horizontally while the surrounding characters continue in a vertical fashion. If this attribute is omitted, than a value of 0, meaning false, is assumed."

Doesn't sound like they were reading the CSS3 document. 

Whatever the correct answer may be, I think it is fairly clear that we lack the time and resources to say anything useful about the layout of Japanese text. 

I am willing to venture a hack at the CSS3 text to attempt to incorporate it but realize it uses terminology that we don't and whatever I produce is unlikely to be useful to anyone who wants to process Japanese texts. 

I suspect this is one of those cases where we should preserve the value strings, simply for backwards compatibility and say that their values are either implementation defined (implementations have to document what happens) or implementation dependent. 

Note that based on what I have read, kuminoji means the compression and arrangement of up to five characters in the space of one character, which involves complex layout rules for the characters and warichu is a reduction in size of characters to fit two lines into the space of one line. 

I am moving onto easier to answer issues for now.

> Public Comment: style:text-combine attribute (ODF all versions)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: OFFICE-1444
>                 URL: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-1444
>             Project: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Text
>    Affects Versions: ODF 1.2
>            Reporter: Robert Weir 
>            Assignee: Michael Brauer
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: ODF 1.2
> Copied from office-comment list
> Original author: "Alex Brown" <alexb@griffinbrown.co.uk> 
> Original date: 31 Mar 2009 15:52:00 -0000
> Original URL: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/200903/msg00168.html

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