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Subject: Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call minutes 2009-12-07


Hi Michael,

  This is the process for someone to declare themselves a persistent non-voting member: (notification to the chair is not sufficient)

2.4.3 Persistent Non-Voting Member: A Member or Voting Member may, at any time after joining a Technical Committee, send e-mail to both the Chair and the TC mailing list informing them of their change in membership status, effective as of the date of notice, or other specified future date. A Persistent Non-Voting Member retains participation rights but is not eligible to vote and does not count towards quorum. A Persistent Non-Voting Member who wishes to gain voting rights must send e-mail to both the Chair and the TC mailing list informing them of their intent to become a Voting Member and must follow the rules in section 2.4.4(c) as if they had lost their voting rights due to non-attendance.

  If a member does not declare themselves a persistent non-voting member, then they gain/lose voting rights according to the TC Process. They can choose to abstain, but that still impacts quorum/determination of number of yes votes required for a ballot to pass.

Regards,

Mary


On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg wrote:

> Hi Mary,
> 
> I'm sorry. I should have let the TC know that Svante asked me to remain a non voting member before setting up the ballot.
> 
> The ballot is closed now, and reached the necessary full majority of "yes" votes. Svante abstained, so the change to the ballot had no impact on the result of the ballot.
> 
> I will send out the request for the public review in a minute, but would like to ask you to wait as long with setting up the public review as you think we should wait to give TC members the possibility to appeal the ballot if they wish to.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> On 12/15/09 07:26, Mary McRae wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  In general, a ballot should never be changed once it's open, and this has now compounded issues. I'm not going to stop it, but if any member wants to appeal, I'm all ears :)
>> Mary
>> On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Svante Schubert wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your indication you were completely right about my voting rights.
>>> While there is certainly a large participation and contribution by Sun in ODF, we want to restrict our votes in the ODF TC to the number of three and therefore I will change my status to Persistent Non-Voting as per section 2.4.3 in the Process document (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php) for now.
>>> 
>>> PS: For the above reason I will actively abstain from today's vote.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Svante
>>> 
>>> On 12/10/09 10:04 PM, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> My records show that Svante Schubert attended the November 30th meeting
>>>> (minutes here:
>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200912/msg00027.html)  as well
>>>> as the December 7th meeting (minutes here:
>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200912/msg00112.html)
>>>> 
>>>> So Svante should have voting rights as well, as of the adjournment of the
>>>> December 7th call.
>>>> 
>>>> This also means that he is eligible to vote in the CD/PRD ballot, since
>>>> that ballot was issued after the adjournment of the meeting on the 7th,
>>>> 
>>>> I've updated the Kavi roster status as well as the in-progress ballot. You
>>>> should probably send out corrected minutes.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm cc'ing Mary, since (IMHO) it is prudent for any change like this to an
>>>> in-progress ballot to have some administrative review.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> -Rob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM wrote on 12/10/2009 04:37:37 AM:
>>>>  
>>>>> Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Rollcall
>>>>> +Xiaohong Dong, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Co., Ltd.
>>>>> +Don Harbison, IBM
>>>>> +Mingfei Jia, IBM
>>>>> +Rob Weir, IBM
>>>>> +Andreas Guelzow
>>>>> +Dennis E. Hamilton
>>>>>  Peter Junge
>>>>>  David Wheeler
>>>>>  Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
>>>>>  Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
>>>>> +Eric Patterson, Microsoft
>>>>> +Thorsten Behrens, Novell
>>>>> +Jomar Silva, OpenDocument Format Alliance (ODFA)
>>>>> +Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems (presiding)
>>>>> +Eike Rathke, Sun Microsystems
>>>>>  Svante Schubert, Sun Microsystems
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Voting Members are indicated with a + before their name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> * 10/14 voting members present, so quorum requirements have been met.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter Junge and David Wheeler will get voting rights at the end of this
>>>>> call.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * The agenda was unanimously approved
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Minutes from 2009-11-30 coordination call:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200912/msg00027.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * ODF 1.0 Errata
>>>>> 
>>>>> The DCOR for ISO 26300 has been filed and balloted.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * ODF 1.2 Part 1 Status
>>>>> 
>>>>> A motion has been made on the e-mail list for approval of ODF 1.2 Part 1
>>>>> Draft 7 as Committee Draft and for sending it out to public review. This
>>>>> motion has been seconded. Michael will set up an electronic ballot,
>>>>> considering discussions and additional motions that have been made on
>>>>> the mailing list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * ODF 1.2 Part 2 Status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patrick is currently inserting anchors and cross references into the
>>>>> specification document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was agreed that the index shall not contain parameters.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The conformance levels are currently under discussion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patrick intents to upload new drafts weekly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The next OpenFormula call will take place on Tuesday.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * ODF 1.2 Part 3 Status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Part 3 is in public review. Most comments we received so far have been
>>>>> entered into JIRA and proposals how to resolve them were added. A review
>>>>> of these resolutions is appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * SC34 WG6 meeting report
>>>>> 
>>>>> This agenda item has been moved to the next TC meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The meeting was adjourned at 4:20pm CET
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering
>>>>> StarOffice/OpenOffice.org
>>>>> Sun Microsystems GmbH             Nagelsweg 55
>>>>> D-20097 Hamburg, Germany          michael.brauer@sun.com
>>>>> http://sun.com/staroffice         +49 40 23646 500
>>>>> http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
>>>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering
> StarOffice/OpenOffice.org
> Sun Microsystems GmbH             Nagelsweg 55
> D-20097 Hamburg, Germany          michael.brauer@sun.com
> http://sun.com/staroffice         +49 40 23646 500
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