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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] Commented: (OFFICE-2587) NEEDS-DISCUSSION:ODF 1.2-1 CD04 Section 22.2.2 Conformant OpenDocument Extended Documentincludes all Conformant Documents



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Dennis Hamilton commented on OFFICE-2587:
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There are the following to be considered, under the understanding that Conforming OpenDocument Extended documents are all-inclusive:

 1. Exactly what is allowed that is not allowed when D1.2.3, D1.3.3, and D1.5 are all satisfied?

 2. How does this impact the definition of Conforming OpenDocument Producer and Conforming OpenDocument Exteneded Producer, which seems to be worded as if the Extended documents are disjoint from the Conforming OpenDocument documents?

3. How does this impact the definition of Conforming OpenDocument Consumer with regard to provisions for Conforming OpenDocument Extended documents and, for that matter, the different D1.5 cases.

4. Have we declared conformant consumers and producers where there is no semantics/schema provided in the ODF 1.2 specification and it is all implementation-defined/-dependent?  

> NEEDS-DISCUSSION: ODF 1.2-1 CD04 Section 22.2.2 Conformant OpenDocument Extended Document includes all Conformant Documents
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFFICE-2587
>                 URL: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-2587
>             Project: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: ODF 1.2 Part 1 CD 4 
>         Environment: This applies to ODF 1.2 Part 1 CD04 section 22.2.2 (D2) but it also applies to (D2) in earlier CDs and working drafts.
>            Reporter: Dennis Hamilton
>            Assignee: Dennis Hamilton
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: ODF 1.2
>
>
> In ODF 1.2 Part 1 CD04 22.2.2(D2) the following does not seem to specify what is intended:
> "A conforming OpenDocument extended document shall meet all requirements of a conforming document except (D1.2.3), (D1.3.3), and (D1.5) ... ."
> This however, does not exclude Conforming OpenDocument Documents as Conforming OpenDocument Extended Documents, since they automatically qualify as satisfiers of all provisions other than the three listed as not required.  The additional provisions, (D2.1) and (D2.2) are trivially satisfied because (D1.2.3) and (D1.3.3) provisions accomplish that for Conforming OpenDocument Documents.
> From the way other clauses are written, I believe that the intended statement is more like
> "A conforming OpenDocument extended document shall meet all requirements of a conforming document except it SHALL NOT satisfy (D1.2.3), (D1.2.2) and (D1.5) and it SHALL satisfy the following requirements:"
> I think completely excluding (D1.5) is a problem, since the matching of mimetype and <office:body> element seems benign.  The only material difference around (D1.5) appears to be (D4.4-D4.5) and no others.  Do we really want to open the gate wider than that in terms of what qualifies as some sort of ODF document?

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