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Subject: [OASIS Issue Tracker] Commented: (OFFICE-3502) ODF 1.2 CD05-119.598: table:condition semantics over-specific

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Andreas Guelzow  commented on OFFICE-3502:

I think you are jumping to an invalid conclusion, namely that if a value is invalid it can't be entered in a cell. That is surely not true. Trying to enter a value that is invalid just triggers some action (warning, error, etc.) or just set some property. For example in OOo you can use a tool to flag all cells that have invalid content. 

One can typically set validation on a cell even if the cell contains data that then will be invalid. 

Also if a validated cell contains a formula, then you can still change the dependents to obtain an invalid value even  if that ought to trigger a stop-action.

> ODF 1.2 CD05-1 19.598: table:condition semantics over-specific
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: OFFICE-3502
>                 URL: http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-3502
>             Project: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Part 1 (Schema), Table
>    Affects Versions: ODF 1.2 CD 05
>            Reporter: Dennis Hamilton
>            Assignee: Dennis Hamilton
>             Fix For: ODF 1.2 CD 06
> In ODF 1.2 CD05-1 19.598, the first paragraph begins with these sentences:
> """
> The table:condition attribute specifies the condition that determines whether a cell content is valid in regard to a validation rule or not. A cell content is valid if the condition evaluates to "true".
> """
> This statement is inaccurate and too strict.  The condtion can be used for other than the determination of the validity of a table cell's content.  According to the definition of the <table:content-validation> there are a variety of ways that the table:condition can be used.  In particular, the associated <table:error-message> element can specify that the table:condition produces a warning message or simply an information-only message.  Although it is the default to take the table:condition satisfaction as causing an operation to stop, that is not the only case.  (And stopping an operation is an odd way to say this, since the operation is the validation.)   I suspect the more-correct interpretation of "stop" is to require a different value to be entered for the cell, although that won't always be possible.  (E.g., consider a cell whose value is determined by a formula for which the table:condition applies and is satisfied.)
> The initial two sentences need to be softened to admit of other possibilities, including use for purposes other than determining that a value is invalid.

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