OpenDocument TC meeting minutes 2011-11-21

[robert_weir@us.ibm.com]

OpenDocument TC meeting minutes 2011-11-21
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*Start 9:36am 

Attending: 

+Andreas Guelzow 
+Cherie Ekholm 
+Andre Rebentish 
+Dennis Hamilton
+Donald Harbison 
+Jos van den Oever 
+Louis Suarez-Potts 
+Ming Fei Jia 
+Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
+Patrick Durusau 
+Robert Weir 
+Robin LaFontaine 
+Steven Pemberton 
+Thorsten Behrens 
+Thorsten Zachmann 
+Tristan Mitchell 

Voting Members are indicated with a + before their name 

16/17 voting members present = 94%, so quorum requirements are met. 

Membership Notes:  None 

-- Agenda: add to end a report from
the recent Plugfest and discussion of modularization technical report.
 Agenda as amended approved by unanimous consent

-- Minutes of Nov 14 approved without
objection

-- TC agrees to cancel the meetings
of Dec 26th and Jan 2nd

- ODF Maint.  No update from SC34
on Amendment or Corroigenda.  Still waiting publication of ODF 1.2.
 
Still planning on errata for ODF 1.1
and ODF 1.2.

-- ODF 1.3

Robin -- consensus report update went
out on Friday.  Plan is to review. If issues arise we can schedule
another call.

See:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-collab/201111/msg00003.html

-- Discussion of ODF schema modularization
technical report

See:  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201111/msg00038.html

Robin:: Modularization work looks like
a good and useful analysis.

Oliver: Having more modules/parts/documents
for the specification would be good from my point of view.
I do not know, if it would be a good idea to 'release' such parts on separately.

Robin: At certain stages of development
it is advantageous to perform a 'tidy up' and this modularisation for ODF
would have that effect. The question is whether or not this is the right
time to do that.

Rob: The tool set used for generating
this analysis:  XSLT, Emacs Lisp, and GraphViz

Dennis: constraining the schema and
not reusing common structures will expand and make it more complicated,
not simpler.  Also, the referential integrity aspects that are not
revealed by the schema itself need to be captured before modularization
can work.

Steven: talks about the benefits of
modularization once it exists (this is about more than modular schema).

Oliver:  is concern about risks
of parts that don't work together and synchronization of modules.

ThorstenB: My take: cleanliness of the
spec / schema is a minor issue. Disrupting the existing ecosystem, is,
compared to that, a major concern. Suggestion: consider profiles instead
(i.e. subsets of the functionality, vs. subsets of the schema)

Rob: considers how the benefits of software
modularization apply to specification modularization.

===> Action item:  Rob to see
if analysis can be repeated for ODF 1.2 schema

--ODF Plugfest

Steven: Plugfest at old town hall in
Gouda, very beautiful, sizable group, around 50, two tracks, national (ODF
in Dutch scenarios) and international (presentations and interop testing)

Jos:We were in here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gouda_city_hall.jpg

Jos: Other track was on Dutch implementors
of template software, implementors asked to generate ODF documents.  Issues
included fonts, tabs, using Officeshots to test.

Requirements: margin notes (footnotes
in the margin)

Patrick: Margin footnotes, tying margin
notes to specific location without overlap of multiple notes is not supported
in XSL-FO (unless it is going to appear in the next version of XSL, don't
know about CSS)

-- Adjourned 10:25

















- Agenda approved without objection 

 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201111/msg00039.html

- Minutes of November 7th approved without objections

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201111/msg00043.html

Rob noted that the 5 year periodic review of ISO/IEC 26300:2006 started.
 No action required from the TC. FYI for TC members who also participate
in their ISO/IEC national bodies. 

Robin reported that he was working on a revision of the the consensus report
on change tracking 

The TC then reviewed issues from JIRA, starting with one left over from
last week: 

http://tools.oasis-open.org/issues/browse/OFFICE-3022

And then working through the issues in Patrick's post:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201111/msg00034.html

Adjourned 10:36