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Subject: Re: [office] Continued Lists


sorry for the late response and that I did not fullfill my promise - the
last days were quite busy.

May be you should have a look at the proposal text which brought attribute
text:continue-list into ODF 1.2 [1]
Here is a quote from this proposal text regarding attribute
The purpose of these new attributes is to continue the numbering of an
arbitrary preceding list regardless of the applied list styles. It also
ensures that lists in <text:numbered-paragraph> representation can also
better be modeled in the <text:list> representation.
These new attributes should be optional and are only valid for top-level
<text:list> elements. It should be used in favor of the existing
text:continue-numbering attribute that has the limitations described below.

What is missing in the specification is that text:continue-list is only
valid for top-level <text:list> elements. This was in the proposal text,
but somehow got lost.

What is also missing is that the attribute text:continue-list shall only
refer a top-level <text:list> element. The proposed attribute text:id was
replace by xml:id, but somehow the previously mentioned wording got lost.

Thus, this attribute shall only connect to top-level <text:list> elements
together in order to form more or less one list. With is esp. used, when a
list is spread through certain table cells.

Another important reason for this attribute and the corresponding xml:id
was to clarify the transformation between the alternative approaches to
represent lists in ODF - <text:list> together with <text:list-item> vs.

For <text:numbered-paragraph> mandatory attribute <text:list-id> has been
proposed and integrated into ODF 1.2.

 found on proposal list in our wiki [2]
[2] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

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From:	Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com>
To:	office@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:	29.02.2012 14:47
Subject:	[office] Continued Lists
Sent by:	<office@lists.oasis-open.org>

I got a question in regard of the @text:continue-list attribute:

It is obvious that this attribute connects two (or more) lists elements
within a document, where the following list has the @text:continue-list
attribute referencing to the previous list.
From my understanding those lists are not equal to one list, which embeds
all the in between content, because:
   1.	The ODF 1.2 schema only allows paragraphs, headings, soft-page breaks
      and (nested) lists within a list. The in between content may be
   2.	The usual indent of list content is likely not to apply to the in
      between content (unspecified - what is the user expectation?)

What puzzles me, is the spec is not precise in regard of
   1.	@text:continue-list only allowing an xml:id of a list, that has the
      same nested/indent level as the referenced list
   2.	What happens if one of both list's list item are increased/decreased
      in list level?

Can someone remember the use case for this feature and/or reference to the
Does this feature exists as well in other formats?

Thanks in advance,

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