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Subject: Re: [office] EC Appraisal of ODF Specification open-ness (was RE: [office] Wrong link in the spec)
Dennis, Thank you a lot for this detailed answer. I'll make sure to remember your PS and completely agree with your PPS. Cheers, Charles. Le Sat, 3 Aug 2013 07:23:53 -0700, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <firstname.lastname@example.org> a écrit : > To expand on Regina's response: > > 1. The correction is already in the OASIS ODF 1.0 Specification with > ODF 1.0 Errata 01. > > 2. The correction is already in the International Standard ISO/IEC > 26300:2006 specification with COR1. > > 3. In ODF 1.2 Part 3 the description has been changed along with > normative reference to the later IETF RFC, [RFC4288]. > > In no case is that defect a barrier to correct, interoperable > implementation of the ODF Specification. Furthermore, the *specific* > MIME types that are for use in conjunction with ODF documents are > identified in section 1.7 (and Appendix C) of ODF 1.0/1.1 (with > reference to [RFC2048] and in section 3.19 (and Appendix C) of ODF > 1.2 Part 1. > > It would appear that the EC approach to assessing how open a > specification might be is based on inspecting grains of sand, without > noticing whether or not the tide is coming in or going out. That > there was no effort to report or consult on a problem with the text > is consistent with that and even more disheartening. Is it even > possible to know which version of ODF specification that brainless > determination was based on, especially when there are ISO > specifications, with Errata, available for international adoption? > > That is not the approach taken by the Japanese national standards > body, the organization that reported the defect and led to its > constructive resolution at OASIS. > - Dennis > > PS: When the EC turns its attention to ODF 1.2 the regulators can > hand-wring on the fact that the Appendix C MIME type for Database > Front End documents (Table 26) is not "as registered" *and* this is > non-normative anyhow. > > PPS: This response is not an argument about whether or not the ODF > specification is open or not. I expect that it will qualify as open > by any criteria that are capable of determining that *any* > international standard specification is open. Whether ODF > specifications are sufficient for independent interoperable > implementation is far more interesting to me, and it should be of > greater interest to the EC in its endeavors to foster adoption of > open standards. That would take a serious, constructive assessment > and investment, something governments (and regulatory bodies) seem > completely unprepared to undertake. > > -----Original Message----- > From: email@example.com > [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Regina Henschel > Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 05:13 AM To: > email@example.com Subject: Re: [office] Wrong link in the > spec > > Hi Charles, > > Charles-H. Schulz schrieb: > > Hello, > > > > It has been brought to the attention of the Document Foundation as > > well as other European entities that the European Commission has > > labeled the ODF standard "not open" and problematic in one of its > > official publications. > > > > Inquiries on this matter has led us to receive the following answer > > from the European Commission: That there's a dead link in the > > specification at the section 17.7.3 : > > http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/media-types/media-types > > > > My question is twofold: what correction could be made to this > > deadlink (apart from its obvious removal) and how long would the > > publication of an erratum take? > > The correction is already contained in > "OpenDocument v1.1 Errata 01 WD09" > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/49989/OpenDocument-v1.1-errata01-wd09.zip > > Kind regards > Regina > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php > -- Charles-H. Schulz Associé / Partner, Ars Aperta.