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Subject: Amended Agenda for ODF TC Teleconference on 04-April-2016


Dear TC members,

Below you find an amended draft agenda for our TC call on Monday,
2016-04-04.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=4&day=4&hour=13&min=30&sec=0&p1=25&iv=1800

The call counts towards voter eligibility.

Teleconference Numbers

Canada - (use US number)

Denmark - +45 78 77 25 34

Germany - +49 30 255550324

Hungary - +36 1 987 6874

The Netherlands - +31 6 35205016

USA - +1 641-715-3580

Access code (for all numbers): 438-387

Chat room for meeting is at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf

Agenda
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1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Minutes from former TC calls -

- 07-March-2016 - notice only (attached)

- 14-March-2016 - notice only (attached)

- 21-March-2016 - notice only (attached)

4. Action Items:

A. Jos van den Oever: Jos will contact implementors about default value
lists

B.  Darrin check to see if Microsoft Office supports data ranges in data
pivots (Office-2089)

C. Thorsen will adapt the proposal in
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2094

D. Patrick - Close Office-1981 and create new issue for Jos. Done. see
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3901

5. Notice of Commits (Questions/Discussions welcome) First Notice

None at time of posting.

6. JIRA Issues for discussion:

JIRA-Issues-ODF-TC-04April2016.ods (attached)

7. New comments on the comments list since last TC call
[none so far]

8. Next meeting: 2016-04-11 at 14:30 UTC.

9.  Adjournment

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!

Patrick


-- 
Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net
Homepage: http://www.durusau.net
Twitter: patrickDurusau

1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

9:30 AM EST

9:35 AM EST - Roll Call

Quorum

+Andreas Guelzow

+Regina Henschel

+Darrin House

+Thomas O'Reilly

+Michael Stahl

+Andras Timar

+Jos van den Oever

+Patrick Durusau

Names of voting members preceded by "+"

Voting members 8 out of 11 - 72%

72 percent quorum 

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve Previous Minutes

- 2016-02-22 (draft) attached.

 unanimous consent - approved minutes of 2016-02-08

4. Action Items:

A. Office-1981 - create new issue, assign Jos (see minutes) - pending

B. Office-1994 - Patrick to check on status of adoption for the XML
technology - done

C. Patrick to check with Thorsten on 3D support in LO - pending

5. Notice of Commits (Questions/Discussions welcome) First Notice

None at time of posting.

6. JIRA Issues for discussion:


Office-2056
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2056

Jos - implementation details in standard
Patrick - would also mean we have to maintain the details
Patrick: Close with notation that it would require additional resources to maintain
Patrick: Close 2056 by consent

Office-2065
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2065
Patrick: Set for ODF 1.3 - correcting reference
Patrick: Consent to 2065 set to ODF 1.3

Office-2072
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2072
Patrick: what goes into configuration settings?
Patrick: Michael - see settings set by older version - lacks a particular setting, then default to a prior buggy version
Patrick: for display
Patrick: Consent to ODF 1.3

Office-2074, Office-2121, Office-3884 
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2074
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3884
Jos van den Oever: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/display_names_in_data_pilot also has a schema diff
Patrick: 2074 and 2121 are true duplicates (close 2121) but with text and 3884 has schema diff - combine for application to 1.3
Patrick: Take language from 2074 plus the schema diff 3884
Patrick: 2121 - close as duplicate, then apply 2074 language, close, apply schema from 3884 and close
Patrick: Amend 3884 to make a comprehensive proposal, closing 2121 and 2074, TC will vote on the resulting 3884
Patrick: consent to producing amended 3884 , etc.

Office-2075
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2075
Patrick: A duplicate to Office-2112 - Regina suggests close 2075 in favor of 2112
Patrick: Consent to closing 2075 for 2112 and set 2112 - ODF 1.3

Office-2081
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2081
Patrick: consent to set to ODF-Later

Office-2083
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2083
Jos van den Oever: https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/text.html#propdef-word-spacing
Jos van den Oever: the ultimate source ^
Patrick: consent to set OFFICE-2083 to ODF 1.3


Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2088

Office-2087
Patrick: Sorry skipped one: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2087
Patrick: May be things to win some speed, Libre Office, sped up reading spreadsheets a lot, not recalculated, import sheets in separate files - or to store offsets for different sheets -
Patrick: Consent to setting 2087 for ODF 1.3


7. New comments on the comments list since last TC call
[none so far]

8. Next meeting: 2016-03-14 at 14:30 UTC.

9.  Adjournment

1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

9:30 AM EST

9:35 AM EST - Roll Call

Quorum

+Andreas Guelzow

+Regina Henschel

+Darrin House

+Jos van den Oever

+Patrick Durusau

Names of voting members preceded by "+"

Voting members 5 out of 10 - 50%

no quorum 

General discussion:













Patrick: List of issues agreed to discuss for ODF 1.3 - Need an overview
of what will be addressed in ODF 1.3

Patrick: Jos, even with you we don't have a quorum, just discussing what
needs to be done generally

Jos van den Oever: that's a shame. Are we one short?

Patrick: Jos, yes one short

Patrick: Regina suggests using the label field so we can search the
issues more efficiently

Patrick: JIRA has an updated field to use for searching

Patrick: 28th of March - holiday, by meeting after that, back on time
Jos van den Oever: March 28th is easter holiday, April 4th is in
summertime in europe

Darrin H.: Found this also: Sunday, March 27, 2016, 2:00:00 AM clocks
are turned forward 1 hour

Patrick: Jos - informal update on testing of implementations web server

Jos van den Oever: https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/event/plugfest/ <-
slides

Adjourned without reaching quorum. 
1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

Thorsten Behrens

+Andreas Guelzow

+Regina Henschel

+Darrin House

Aarti Nankani

+Thomas O'Reilly

+Michael Stahl

+Andras Timar

+Jos van den Oever

+Patrick Durusau

Names of voting members preceded by "+"

Voting members 8 out of 10 - 80%

80 percent quorum 

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

Approved.

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve Previous Minutes

None

4. Action Items:

A. Office-1981 - create new issue, assign Jos (see minutes) pending

B. Office-1994 - Patrick to check on status of adoption for the XML
technology

C. Patrick to check with Thorsten on 3D support in LO - ongoing

5. Notice of Commits (Questions/Discussions welcome) First Notice

None at time of posting.

6. JIRA Issues for discussion:

Office-2088
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2088
Jos van den Oever: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/27982/default-styles.ods
Jos van den Oever: Patrick: would the plugfests be a good venue to discuss the defaults?
Jos van den Oever: Darrin and Jos will discuss Microsoft Office defaults offline
Jos van den Oever: If we're writing the defaults, we should also mention that it's always better to be explicit about default values in documents.
Action Item: Jos van den Oever: Jos will contact implementors about default value lists

Office-2089
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2089
Jos van den Oever: Regina would like to know if OOXML support data ranges in the data pilot
Action Item: Jos van den Oever: Darrin will look up Microsoft Office supports this

Office-2090
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2090
Jos van den Oever: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200806/msg00021.html
Jos van den Oever: move proposal to ODF-Later

Office-2091
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2091
Jos van den Oever: closed as duplicate
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2091
Jos van den Oever: "Support odd-page, even-page and auto as an attribute of fo:break-before and fo:break-after. "

Office-2091
Michael Stahl: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2092
Jos van den Oever: Leave as ODF 1.2
Jos van den Oever: Leave as 1.3

Office-2093
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2093
Jos van den Oever: Michael: RFC says that fragment is stripped from url before handling the base url in RDF
Jos van den Oever: Michael: fragment allows jumping to a part of the document, the simple xml:id is sufficient for this
Jos van den Oever: Michael: the part where xmlid is in content.xml is useful
Jos van den Oever: resulution: ODF 1.3 for that part, for the rest, a new Office item might be opened

Office-2094
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2094
Action Item: Jos van den Oever: Feature should go in 1.3. Thorsten will adapt the proposal.

Office-2095
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2095
Jos van den Oever: closing

Office-2096
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2096
Jos van den Oever: moving to ODF-Later
Jos van den Oever: Thorsten: this dovetails with the templating engine he works on at CIB

Office-2097
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2097
Jos van den Oever: closing, because already in 1.2

Office-2098
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2098
Jos van den Oever: Michael: issues highlighted are covered by issues that Michael added specifically in the issue
Jos van den Oever: Thorten: motion to close issue
Jos van den Oever: closing

Office-2102
Jos van den Oever: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2101
Jos van den Oever: Thorsten: issue might be better solved in a different way
Jos van den Oever: closing

7. New comments on the comments list since last TC call
[none so far]

8. Next meeting: 2016-04-04 at 13:30 UTC.

9.  Adjournment

Attachment: JIRA-Issues-ODF-TC-04April2016.ods
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