RE: [office] OFFICE-2103 - Test document using automatic styles refering to page breaks

["Camilla Boemann" <cbo@boemann.dk>]

List please read below for my feedback 

And no Calligra doesn't have any ui to make breaks around tables at all - so we can't produce any new attributes for tables - but we might change the order of such attributes during a read-write cycle

-----Original Message-----
From: Regina Henschel [mailto:regina.henschel@libreoffice.org] 
Sent: 27. marts 2017 15:04
To: Camilla Boemann <cbo@boemann.dk>
Subject: Re: [office] OFFICE-2103 - Test document using automatic styles refering to page breaks

Hi Camilla,

you have only written to me, not to the list. But it would be good to get the description for Calligra to the list.

Has Calligra an UI to generate both fo:break-after and fo:break-before on the same table? That would be a good argument to allow it. 
LibreOffice has no UI to produce such documents.

Please write to office@lists.oasis-open.org

Kind regards
Regina

Camilla Boemann schrieb:
> Hmm I'd say Word is correct here
> Especially since Calligra does it the same way. :)
>
> Having to do hacks with master-page-name sounds to me just as 
> difficult to implement - Banning a behavior doesn't fix old documents 
> anyway - And the master-page-name or or the Word way would be equal 
> work - so why not do it the logical way ad allow both and do both
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: office@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:office@lists.oasis-open.org] 
> On Behalf Of Regina Henschel
> Sent: 27. marts 2017 13:23
> To: office@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [office] OFFICE-2103 - Test document using automatic 
> styles refering to page breaks
>
> Hi all,
>
> attached are break examples for tables. Here the results are different
>
> TableBreakAfterBefore.odt has first fo:break-after then fo:break-before.
> LibreOffice 5.4 breaks only before,
> SoftMaker 2016 breaks only before,
> Word 2016 breaks before and after
>
> TableBreakBeforeAfter.odt has first fo:break-before then fo:break-after.
> LibreOffice 5.4 breaks only after,
> SoftMaker 2016 breaks only before,
> Word 2016 breaks before and after
>
> TableBreakMasterPageAfter has a style:master-page-name="Landscape" and fo:break-after.
> LibreOffice 5.4 breaks before, has table in landscape, breaks after Softmaker 2016 same as LibreOffice 5.4.
> Word 2016 breaks before, has table in landscape. But then has the paragraph which comes directly after the table doubled. One of them is directly after the table, then comes a break and then comes the other one. That is likely a bug in Word 2016, which can open ODF1.2 only with 'repair'.
>
> My conclusion is, because the behavior is different in case both 
> fo:break-after and fo:break-before are present, this should be 
> forbidden. If the user wants a break before and after the table and 
> hold this information inside the table, then this can be achieved with 
> the combination of a master-page-name attribute (which results in a 
> break
> before) and a fo:break-after.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
>