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Subject: chat log for April 23, 2018


Our chat log for the ODF TC conference call today appears below.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!



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Andreas J Guelzow: We should revisit Office-1832
Patrick: quorum - yes
Patrick: Andreas: style:date-style might require multiple number:year https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-1832

i. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3765 [spreadsheet] Proposal: <number:fill-character> element for data styles

ii. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3767 [text] Proposal: contextual spacing of paragraphs

iii. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3776 [text] Proposal: initials of annotation authors

iv. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3789 [text] Proposal: special header/footer style on first page

v. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 [text] additional text-properties for extra border attributes (was discussed 5 Mar 201

vi. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3854 [graphic-properties] Proposal: different relative size relations (was discussed 12 Feb 201

vii. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3857 scale-to-X and scale-to-Y attributes (was discussed 5 Feb 201

viii. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3881 [text] Proposal: drop-down listbox field (was discussed 22 Jan 201

ix. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3884 Custom display names in data pilot tables (was discussed 22 Jan 201

x. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3943 Allow attribute draw:mime-type in <draw:image> element (was discussed 18 Dec 2017)

xi. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2093 Using URL fragment identifiers for ODF media types (was discussed 20 Feb 2017)

xii. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3940 Add OpenPGP-based XML encryption (was discussed 4 Dec 2017)

xiii. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3665 Allow data pilot source cell range to be referenced by textural name.

xiv. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-1148 Demand for modification of ODF file format about regression curvein 
spreadsheet (was discussed 2 Oct 2017)
Patrick: agenda is approved
Patrick: Office-1832 - schema always allowed multiple instances - just need to change the documentation
Patrick: Office-1832 approved.
Patrick: no solution to get the fill character within the values - in the schema - can do before and after - expansion of fill character -
Patrick: fill character should be able to be different from in front of text versus in back of text
Patrick: LO does it with format codes - describes the expanding character -
Regina Henschel: I would only allow one element fill-character. So no problem with different characters before and after.
Patrick: (before-fill-character)[data value](after-fill-character)
Patrick: (before-fill-character)[data*between-fill-character)value](after-fill-character)
Patrick: (before-fill-character)[data(between-fill-character)value](after-fill-character)
Regina Henschel: Using <number:text> sounds good. Put restriction to 1 fill-character element into prosa part?
Patrick: if two of them, need rule on which to expand which way -
Patrick: shall not produce only one fill-character element (producer), consumer should ignore any subsequent fill-character element
Patrick: shall not produce more than one
Patrick: used only if the width is fixed in the number style and in spreadsheet - shrink to fit -
Patrick: Regina on fixed width and shrink to fit
Patrick: Always only one fill character? within any context for its use?
Patrick: as part of number style - only one data style to apply -
Patrick: when use fill character, then the paragraph alignment is not considered, justify on cell itself, but with expand character in it, the content is no longer justified. Can justify or have the fill character but not both.
Patrick: Andreas - but can set justification on columns, shouldn't that still apply if data style is fill character?
Patrick: left or right justification would put fill character to width of the field on the opposite side.
Patrick: Regina, by justify do you mean 'text' is aligned to left and right margins?
Patrick: yes
Patrick: if both justification (Regina's sense) and fill character, then fill character first, then justify
Patrick: Regina - same for left and right align
Patrick: group can be a child of interleave - possible schema solution (Michael)
Patrick: in implementations, only the last fill-character is used
Patrick: Andreas - last fill-character element's value, can have only one
Patrick: Perhaps prose should say consumers use the value of the last field-character element in a data style
Patrick: Michael suggests we discover if his restriction to one character works and then consider having more than one fill-character element
Patrick: adjourned - 13:07

Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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