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Subject: Re: [office] Reformatting of Normative References

Hi Patrick,

in the meantime I have looked into the broken bibliographic index in OpenDocument-v1.3-wd05-part3-documents.odt
It contains faulty attributes of type
text:style-name="_5f_35_5f__5f_20_5f__5f_5f_5f_35_5f_5f_5f__5f_5f_5f_ ..
Some of them seem originally "emphasis" and "stron emphasis" style. But I think, it would be better to remove them all, and then set the correct ones for the reference types, which are actually used.

Which LibreOffice (or other app?) version do you have used for editing?

Kind regards

Patrick Durusau schrieb am 13.05.2018 um 23:06:


Your comments ring several bells of conversations with Michael Brauer
years ago about the manual editing of the references table.

I won't look to the app and will just manually edit with links etc. That
would be a cool ability to assign sorted bibiiographies, such as at the
heads of chapters (European style academic publishing).

Hope you are at the start of a great week!


On 05/13/2018 03:56 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi Patrick,

The tool "Bibliography Database" in menu Tools is only for an external
bibliography database but not for the embedded "Bibliography Entry"
items. So no wonder, that you cannot find the entries there.

One problem here is, that the bibliography index is always build from
all of the bibliography entries in the document. But we need an index
of normative references and an index of non-normative references.
Therefore manually editing the index is needed in a final run. If you
use "update index" in the draft, such editing is lost.

A second problem is, that the references contain click-able links to
the source. Such do not exist in the bibliography index and the link
has to be added manually. There exists a URL field, but it is not
click-able. Here too a simple "update index" will destroy all the
manual changes.

Currently the formatting of the parts of the reference are not done by
styles but by hard formatting. Therefore they are lost too. But that
can be solved in the settings of the bibliography index.

I'm not sure, whether using embedded bibliography entries is the best
way for getting a bibliography index. A different way might be to
write the references directly as paragraph into a chapter and use a
bookmark/reference system.

Kind regards

Patrick Durusau schrieb am 09.05.2018 um 22:48:

While applying changes to section 1.2 of part 3, I ran into odd behavior
for the normative references.

They were restricted from user changes and when I changed that setting,
all the present formatting was loss. :-( Undo in LO was no help.

I went ahead with the changes but I did check the alleged bibliography
manager but it appears to have no relationship to the normative
references, at least judging from its content.

Thought the absence of the content of 1.2 from the bibliography manager
curious enough to mention.

Hope everyone is having a great week!


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