[OASIS Issue Tracker] (OFFICE-2016) Support X3D in ODF

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Michael Stahl updated OFFICE-2016:
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    Component/s: Part 1 (Schema)

> Support X3D in ODF
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>                 Key: OFFICE-2016
>                 URL: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2016
>             Project: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Graphics, Part 1 (Schema)
>    Affects Versions: ODF 1.3
>            Reporter: Robert Weir 
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: ODF 1.3
>
>
> Request came initially from JTC1/SC24 via SC34.
> I responded with some questions and received this response from, Dick Puk,  Convener, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC24/WG6.:
> > 1) Would the intent be to simply place an X3D fragment into a frame
> > in a
> > text document, the way we currently do with bitmap images?  Or is the
> > intent to have something more interactive, e.g., navigable?
> X3D is a fully dynamic and interactive web technology for 3D graphics on the
> web. As such, it requires a run-time to process the scenegraph and to
> provide the necessary interaction with the viewer. It has been an ISO
> standard since 2004 and is now in its separate edition. Previous to that
> (and still available) is earlier similar technology called the Virtual
> Reality Modeling Language (VRML). VRML was standardized in 1997 and is still
> being widely supported as well. X3D generalizes the VMRL technology and is
> largely upwards compatible. VRML worlds that use only ECMAScript scripting
> or no scripting are easily convertible to X3D. 
> > 2) Would the intent be to add X3D as a new module within an ODF
> > document,
> > or were you thinking about adding 3D support to areas in ODF which
> > currently have 2D graphics only?
> Although I am relatively unfamiliar with the architecture of ODF, I believe
> it will have to be a new module. It has been my experience that it is very
> difficult to generalize 2D architectures to adequately support 3D especially
> dynamic, interactive 3D.
> > 3) We are also considering a request from the W3C to add more
> > substantial
> > SVG support to ODF.  We're interested to determine how best to use
> > both
> > markups in the same document.  Has there been any work in how these
> > relate?  It seems that it would be reasonable, from an application
> > perspective, for user to want to copy/paste objects from a 2D object
> > into
> > a 3D object.  This will work smoothly if the 2D vector capabilities
> > of X3D
> > match those of SVG.
> Although not currently supported, it would be appropriate (and relatively
> easy) to reference SVG canvases as textures within X3D. This would allow
> them to be mapped to any X3D surface.
> > 4) As for PNG, we believe that this is already supported by ODF in by
> > several current ODF implementations.
> X3D also supports PNG images for textures or backgrounds.
> > If SC 24 has a technical expert who is able to discuss these topics
> > further with the ODF TC, please have him or her send me a note.  We
> > are
> > actively collecting proposals for the next release of ODF and would
> > be
> > glad to receive your input.
> X3D technology is developed jointly by the Web3D Consortium and ISO/IEC
> JTC1/SC24 through a cooperative agreement between the Web3D Consortium and
> ISO. The World Wide Web Consortium has endorsed the Web3D Consortium as the
> source for 3D web standards. Since most documents are now web-enabled, X3D
> would be an appropriate technology to be endorsed by ODF. It has already
> been endorsed by TC184/SC4 (CAD) as an accepted presentation technology for
> CAD data. I will be happy to answer any questions that you might have. I am
> also cc-ing this response to Don Brutzman, Co-Chairman of the Web3D
> Consortium's X3D Working Group and a member of the Web3D Consortium's Board
> of Directors. He may also have comments. Please feel free to contact either
> of us. Please feel free to contact either one of us. 



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