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Subject: ODF TC chat log for 8 July 2019


Greetings!

The chat log for the ODF teleconference, 8 July 2019 is attached.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!

Patrick

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Patrick: Wording:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4042

part 4, 6.15.8 OR: typo "shall returns"

Proposal: "if any are TRUE, it shall return TRUE."

Patrick: Agree present wording wrong, but suggest: "if any are TRUE, it returns TRUE." (defining a function states the result, shall is unnecessary)


Substantive:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3903 [Michael and Regina]

Text 6.18.30 FTEST, ODF1.2 part 2 needs improvements

Use updated proposal here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201809/msg00014.html


https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3867

  related to: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3708 and https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3702

Incorrect URL for XMLDsig - support both but produce only the correct one going forward?


Bad Directory Link:

[Regina] in ODF1.3 part3, section D4 'Further Guidelines' is the text:
"Additional, non-normative Accessibility Guidelines are available at: http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/office-accessibility/guidelines. That more comprehensive document will be the up-to-date set of recommendations for what all OpenDocument applications should do in order to fully support accessibility."

The mentioned directory "guidelines" does not exists, but the current structure is
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/office-accessibility/
    v1.0/
        ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines-v1.0.html
        ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines-v1.0.odt
        ODF_Accessibility_Guidelines-v1.0.pdf
        cd01/
        cd02/
        cs01/

My suggestion is, to add the directory "guidelines" and move the three current files into it, and keep directory v1.0 with the three subdirectories.

That way, in case these documents are updated, the links in the specification need not be changed. I think, that is better than changing the links in the specification to the current structure.
[/Regina]


Typos:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4044

duplicate "than"

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3871

mis-placed "/?

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3868

update mime type reference in text

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4043

remove references to non-existing part5


Status update:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3667

Michael and Regina note applied in text but status not updated. wd-10-08-part4

Michael notes:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3428 and https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3034 have status "applied" when they should either say ODF-Later or close. 

Open:

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3940
Patrick: Quorum - yes
Patrick: Agenda amended - no objection -
Patrick: part 4, 6.15.8 OR: typo "shall returns"

Proposal: "if any are TRUE, it shall return TRUE."

Patrick: Agree present wording wrong, but suggest: "if any are TRUE, it returns TRUE." (defining a function states the result, shall is unnecessary)
Andreas J Guelzow: "if any are TRUE, it shall return TRUE()."
Patrick: Andreas: 4.5 says true and false but doesn't say what they are - distinct from 4.3.7 where it is a subtype of number
Patrick: As a textual matter, is the suggest we define TRUE (uppercase) as equivalent to TRUE()?
Patrick: But if so, doesn't that require support of booleans as a subtype of number?
Patrick: Reading the current text of 4.5 as:
A Logical value (also called a Boolean value) is a value with one of two values: TRUE and FALSE.
Note: Logical values can be represented as a subtype of Number. 4.3.7
Patrick: Michael says to use TRUE() which will be correct however it may be implemented
Patrick: A Logical value (also called a Boolean value) is a value with one of two values: TRUE() and FALSE().
Patrick: define constants in chapter 4 for True and False -
Patrick: Andreas - if a number, true is a synonym for 1 and false is a synonym for 0
Patrick: then the semantics in 6.15.9 goes away because in 4 - new subsection
Patrick: Returns logical constant FALSE. This may be a Number or a distinct type.
Patrick: Michael says to keep the false semantics
Patrick: as a helpful reminder
Patrick: Does 4.5 become Boolean? no logical or number
Patrick: Andreas - will do a proposal to reword 4.5 - 4.3.7 will refer to 4.5 for all the details. - will need to sweep the standard for consistency with the proposal
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3903 [Michael and Regina]

Text 6.18.30 FTEST, ODF1.2 part 2 needs improvements

Use updated proposal here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201809/msg00014.html
Patrick: Patrick - to use the proposal in the email link.
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3867

  related to: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3708 and https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3702

Incorrect URL for XMLDsig - support both but produce only the correct one going forward?
Regina Henschel: 4.8.6 manifest:start-key-generation-name
Patrick: Michael, list correct and accept either?
Patrick: Pat to generate the missing text for next week.


-- 
Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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