Notes from 10 Feb 2020

Francis Cave: Does anyone know a UK dial-in number for this conference line?

Michael Stahl: Francis: there probably is one...

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Patrick: 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 27 January 2020 (below)

4. Reminder - No meeting February 17th, holiday in US and Canada

5. Move issues by Cherie Ekholm, prior MS rep. to? Office-3666 - Shadow on a paragraph, not on the text of the paragraph, https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3666; Office-3660 Current table template architecture doesn't support inner horizontal or vertical cell bars, https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3660; Office-3404 9.1.13 - confusing naming of the table:title-element, https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3404

6. Closure of ODF SubCommittees?

From Chet:

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The ODF subcommittees OpenDocument - Accessibility SC, OpenDocument - Editors SC, OpenDocument - Formula SC, OpenDocument - Metadata SC, and OpenDocument - Requirements SC appear to be inactive, with no recent documents stored and email archives that have not had any traffic in a decade or more. (The OpenDocument - Advanced Document Collaboration SC has seen activity as recently as 2018 so I don't include it here.)
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7. Pending Issues for ODF 1.3 - Neither Approved nor Applied - Move to ODF 1.3 errata?

a. Units "at"/"atm" - https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3851 (Patrick, ODF 1.4?)

b. Mime type of database documents? https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3745

c. Whitespace between FunctionName and opening parentheses of parameter list https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3667 - Listed for ODF 1.3 Errata under https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4069

8. ODF Later issues (Preference to current TC members and cycling through their issues so no one is on the spot for all of them in a meeting), btw, limiting the search to open/deferred issues counts 134: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20Deferred)%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(%22ODF%201.4%22%2C%20ODF-Next)%20ORDER%20BY%20reporter%20ASC )

a. draw:type and draw:engine interaction - https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3772 reporter: Andreas Guelzow

b. style:writing-mode attribute (on elements sections) - confused wording https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3792 reporter: Patrick Durusau

c. How to calculate the start and end point of an elliptical arc from given angles https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3825 reporter: Regina Henschel

d. Inability to recognize errors - https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3759 reporter: Andreas Guelzow

e. style:writing-mode (attribute) includes value: tb-lr - undefined in xsl 1.0 - https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3791 reporter: Patrick Durusau

f. Which coordinate system is used in draw:enhanced-geometry, when svg:viewBox is missing - https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3824 reporter: Regina Henschel

9. Adjournment

Michael Stahl: Francis, when you go to https://www.freeconferencecall.com/ do you see a local number in the upper right corner?

Patrick: Minutes of 27 January 2020 - Approved by consent

Patrick: Other changess to the agenda? I added issues for Cherie Ekholm , Closure of sub-committees

Patrick: agenda is approved by consent

Patrick: 5. - issues by Cherie Ekholm - assign to Alfred - Patrick =

Patrick: 6. Closure of ODF sub-committees? Patrick tell Chet to go ahead and close the listed sub-committees

Regina Henschel: at_tech or at_kgf

Patrick: Regina says we should remove at or give it a new name

Patrick: Michael, if load file using deprecated unit, can't store, have to convert to ATM,

Patrick: Andreas says it is stored as a string -

Patrick: Andreas - not a unit - stored as a string read as a unit

Patrick: Andreas - string need not be constant, can be calculated

Patrick: Andreas - this effects evaluation -

Patrick: Andreas - if someone has used it, can't do much about it

Patrick: "at" Deprecated. Note: Treated by Excel2016, incorrectly, as the equivalent of "atm. 

"atm" Standard atmosphere = 1.0132510+5 Pa

"SI_at" Technical atmosphere = 9.8066510+4 Pa

Patrick: Note: Interpreted inconsistently with historical implementations.

Patrick: Note: Interpreted inconsistently by historical implementations.

Patrick: Note: Interpreted inconsistently by implementations.

Patrick: In full:

"at" Deprecated. Note: Interpreted inconsistently by existing implementations. 

"atm" Standard atmosphere = 1.0132510+5 Pa

"SI_at" Technical atmosphere = 9.8066510+4 Pa

Patrick: Patrick to modify proposal

Patrick: Set to ODF 1.4

Patrick: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.base odb

Patrick: IANA - vnd.oasis.opendocument.database application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.database

Patrick: BCP 13 - registration procedures - can't change the registration, can make it obsolete - change the description

Patrick: Media type registrations may not be deleted; media types that are no
   longer believed appropriate for use can be declared OBSOLETE by a
   change to their "intended use" field; such media types will be
   clearly marked in the lists published by the IANA.

Patrick: Two part process - make IANA - vnd.oasis.opendocument.database application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.database OBSOLETE and, register application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.base

Patrick: In description refer to obsolete mime type

Patrick: TC Admin can ask for the current one to be declared obsolete -

Patrick: Task for someone to do. - Francis to look over proposal for registration of the new mime type by Patrick

Patrick: adjourned 12:59

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