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Subject: ODF TC Teleconference notes - 13 July 2020


Notes from today's meeting appear below.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great and safe week!



Patrick: Roll - call - quorum yes
Patrick: agenda - approved by consent
Patrick: minutes of 6 July 2020 - approved by consent
Patrick: Previously listed as ODF 1.3 errata but now with CSO2 - fix?

Regina suggests:
shows JIRA issues #4050 - #4071.

Fix now?
Patrick: Francis - this is something we can fix now - Alfred - agrees
Patrick: consent to fix in item #4
Patrick: 5. ODF 1.3 CS02 Specification Editorial Fixes
Patrick: Francis - work is essentially been done - some other typos have
appeared -
Patrick: Purely typos, periods, commas, etc. leave to reader to extract
if interested
Patrick: Issues noted in comments - Patrick to convert into JIRA issues
Patrick: comments by Svante - some lines that should be generated from
the schema are missing - impacts a large number of clauses
Patrick: Francis - got lost in the auto-generation - partially fixed -
more work needs to be done on automation script
Patrick: Francis - where to put the script inherited and as currently
being used?
Patrick: Michael - put on Github
Patrick: Michael - old ones under ODF 1.2, new ones under ODF 1.3
Patrick: Francis - will upload the scripts
Patrick: Patrick - can diff the generated values in 1.2 against 1.3
Patrick: Francis - still some issues with the XML being generated -
still a problem with style overrides -
Patrick: 6. Fixed value of attribute manifest:version on element
<manifest:manifest> is incorrect in the specification
Patrick: Francis - can run the script again - should have generated the
correct version number -
Patrick: will see if that fixes the issue
Patrick: Closed office-4085 as duplicate of Office-4052
Patrick: 7. ODF deliverable DIFF as PDF should be omitted or fixed
Patrick: Michael - comment on expectation of diff - 1.2 to 1.3 or
between CS versions
Patrick: defer Office-4083 until Svante returns - Patrick to ask TCAdmin
about diffing between CS versions?
Patrick: 8. Inconsistencies in the use of paragraph, character and list
Patrick: Francis - Hopes to end part 3 by end of the week - work on progress
Patrick: . (new) Be more precise about the values 'text', 'char' and
'line' in
style:vertical-rel https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4076
Patrick: Regina - should we address this? if yes, set to ODF-Next
Patrick: if line, is it only the character or the whole row or only the
area without descenders?
Patrick: Regina - some of these are used only in special contexts -
bullets in a list for example -
Patrick: Regina - need to resolve other writer terms for layout
Patrick: Consent to opening OFFICE-4076 and setting to ODF-Next
Patrick: 10. (new) Not clear, to which elements attributes vertical-rel and
vertical-pos can be applied https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4077
Patrick: Regina - has text frame - not clear to which elements it
applies - not clear if there are restrictions when used in a list
Patrick: Propose to open and set to ODF-?
Patrick: Consent to opening and setting to ODF-Next
Patrick: 11. (new) The technical term "baseline" is not defined.
Patrick: Regina's example: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-inline-3/#css-metrics
Patrick: becomes more complex with vertical alignment
Patrick: Regina - Open and ODF-Next
Patrick: Consent to Open OFFICE-4078 and set to ODF-Next
Patrick: should have CSO2 draft complete by no later than July
Patrick: Estimate standard by end of year
Patrick: Francis - change for next draft - make margins - match ODF 1.2
margins -
Patrick: Francis - make style definitions comparable to ODF 1.2
Patrick: Consent - to proposed changes by Frances

Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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