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Subject: Re: [office] Fwd: Status on ODF second review request?

Dear TC members,

I have created an editorial GitHub issue: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/odf-tc/issues/28
And asked Paul if it is possible to fix this editorial issue of the HTML none-administrative during the public review and adjust this meanwhile/afterwards.
There is no doubt we all agree that this has to be fixed before becoming a standard.

At least it is not a new regression, the same issue existed in CD01:

As long no one opposes, I would suggest we continue our public review as planned!


Am Di., 8. Sept. 2020 um 23:26ÂUhr schrieb Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>:


You will be glad to know that the TC Admin did reach our request for the second public review!

I inquired about our status and got the email below from Paul Knight.

Looking at the HTML parts he suggests, it is really wretched.

I asked him to hold off publishing until I could ask the TC explicitly if this is what we want to showcase as our work.

Top of the agenda for next week.

Hope everyone is having a great week!


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Status on ODF second review request?
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 14:55:03 -0400
From: Paul Knight <paul.knight@oasis-open.org>
To: Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>

Hi Patrick,

I just took a quick look at the files, and have a few observations:
- justÂlooking at the files, I wondered about the HTML versions of the three RNG files. This is new. No problem, we'll include them along with the other files into /schemas subdirectory. (I see internal documentationÂ"In order to meet the evolving needs of the Internet community, the XML grammar RNG files will be rendered as well into a HTML publication format.", so it removes my concern that the inclusion of these RNG-HTML files might have been triggered by a misinterpretationÂof OASIS publication requirements...)
- In general, the files look very good, probably ready to publish, except for...

The HTML representation of mathematical expressions is still atrocious in many instances. So I'd like to verify whether the TC wants to proceed with publishing these HTML files as-is, or try to work on this.

A couple of examples are in Part 3 and Part 4:

Part 3:
- HTML for Section 20.27 "chart:interpolation" is really badly scrambled, with apparent repetitions (note "where for all") and lots of dropped math expressions - when compared to the PDF or ODT.

Part 4:

Part 4 shows very serious corruption of the HTML version, in handling the presentation of some of the more complicated mathematical formulas. A good example is seen in 6.18.41 (LINEST).
Compare the PDF format with the HTML format, beginning several lines below TABLE 29 - Linest (OpenDocument-v1.3-csd03-part4-formula.html#refTable28) [also note minor discrepancy in the name of the tag - 28 vs 29].

Below the text "and define the following matrices:", the PDF shows three matrices, but the HTML only shows the first of these three matrices.
Just below that, the PDF has the text:
- "Let X^T denote the transpose of X, see TRANSPOSE 6.5.6. Then the matrix product X^TâX is a square matrix. If X^TâX is not invertible, then LINEST shall either return an error or calculate a result as described below." (and several lines, below, the text "These a,b1,â,bn"

The HTML shows the same text as:
- "Let
These a,b1,â,bn"
The HTML appears to simply discard big blocks of text and formulas appearing after the first math _expression_ in a sentence.

So - proceed withÂpublishing this as-is, or try to fix the HTML issues with math?

Best regards,

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:27 AM Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> wrote:
Hi Patrick,Â

Hope you had a happy day off. Beautiful weather up here and I finally got my boat set up, in time for the last 2 months of the season.Â

I think Paul has been checking it out but copying him here so he can reply. Paul, the ticket isÂhttps://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-3793

Patrick, generally we take them in rank order.Â



On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:15 PM Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net> wrote:

Cleaning off my desk a bit and had mistakely look at your JIRA queue in
ticket # order. Then I thought I don't understand what order you use for

So, just curious where we might be on the second request for ODF?

I've got a funded TC member whose job it is to gnaw on my ankles. After
years of my supporting them in the TC. Shrugs, it's of no moment.

Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend!


Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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