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Subject: Notes from Nov. 16, 2020


Great discussion on the subtleties of namespaces! Notes follow.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!



Patrick: quorum - yes
Patrick: agenda approved by consent
Patrick: minutes of Nov. 9th - approved by consent
Patrick: ->
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4086
Patrick: D.1.1 still has shall - copy-n-paste error, and D.4 is missing
- Patrick fix and ask again if it's correct
Patrick: new issue from Trey Bagley
Patrick: create a JIRA for Bagley - issue - Patrick will create it
Patrick: #5 - Svante reports there are no spaces in any attribute values
of the main schema
Svante Schubert:
Svante Schubert: This is the RelaxNG dump from MSV and I did only
search/replace/sort on this, there are not spaces in values, etc.
Svante Schubert: The question was are there more spaces as in "system
table" of @db:table-definition
Patrick: defer 5 to next week
Svante Schubert: I come back with a full answer next week
Svante Schubert: On how the value is stated in the spec and if there are
such values in package spec.
Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4086
Patrick: Michael suggests producers should include an xmlns declaration
in root svg element
Patrick: only if svg image uses the svg prefix
Svante Schubert: The usual svg namespace is http://www.w3.org/2000/svg
Svante Schubert: Default namespace like
Svante Schubert: Candidate Recommendation:
Francis Cave1: https://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-SVG11-20110816/svgdtd.html
Patrick: Michael agrees to use of xmlns on root svg elements - as should
on producers
Michael Stahl: SVG 1.1 has a DTD with the usual XML namespace
deficiencies; SVG 1.2 was apparently abandoned; SVG 1.2 Tiny has
normative RelaxNG; SVG 2 is not finished yet
Svante Schubert: Only XSD from working drafts:
Regina Henschel: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3995
Patrick: the svg root element should have an xmlns attribute with the
value -
Regina Henschel: In the context of an OpenDocument document the svg root
element should have an attribute xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";.
Patrick: Svante - the reason for the namespace is because we want to be
compatible with applications that are using DTDs - want to be able to
process the item separately
Regina Henschel: <draw:object><math> ... or <draw:object><math:math>.. ?
Svante Schubert: The embedded content.xml is using default namespace
using LO 7.031 <math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML";
Svante Schubert: that is the root element of the embedded math content.xml
Patrick: to be continued next week ... Nov 23, 2020. Michael says the
ODF language wasn't updated - apps were.

Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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