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Subject: Notes From Monday Feb. 01, 2021


Greetings!

ODF TC Teleconference notes are below.

Hope everyone is having a great week!

Svante

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[18:01] Svante Schubert: Greetings!

A draft agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2021-02-01

Time of meeting:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2021&month=2&day=1&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=25&p2=37

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Agenda
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1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 25 January 2021

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202101/msg00023.html

4. Simplify Line Height handling
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3847

5. Use @text:relative-tab-stop-position as well for style:tabs-stops
instead of using settings.xml flag
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3846

6. [text] additional text-properties for extra border attributes
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843

7. The color mode "Watermark" makes images pale, not transparent
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841

8. ODF 1.3: Package Encryption Enhancements
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3709

---- skipping Office-2737 - I have such a list for 1.3 and have asked if
this is still a requested item for 1.2.

9. Add EASTERSUNDAY function
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2164

10. Member Proposal: date axis on charts
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2119

11. Reminder - ODF 1.4 issues without proposals

12. Adjournment.
[18:07] Svante Schubert: Alfred: New agenda point #4. -> Not not all deprecated ODF 1.3 items listed in the appending - in the text 6 or 7 more found.
[18:07] Svante Schubert: ^^Apendix G
[18:08] Svante Schubert: Agenda of 25 Jan approved by consent
[18:09] Svante Schubert: https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/cs02/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.3-cs02-part3-schema.html#__RefHeading__1420416_253892949
[18:10] Svante Schubert: Alfred said: If we are listing deprecated mime types, we might expect to find all deprecated items
[18:13] Svante Schubert: Francis said: In Appendix G (first page) there are changes, these include the deprecated items and should be better moved among the deprecated parts.
[18:15] Francis Cave: Part Schema 5.3.7 is not listed in Appendix G as changed / deprecated, nor the issue that caused this.
[18:17] Svante Schubert: Francis: Believes this is not a technical issue, but an editorial issue.
[18:19] Francis Cave: Appendix G does not contain any list of newly deprecated elements and attributes.
[18:19] Svante Schubert: Francis: Position at the moment is that Appendix G is not giving a full list of the deprecated items.
[18:19] Svante Schubert: Michael: Is this possible to edit such editorial changes in between?
[18:19] Svante Schubert: Michael: CS01 to CS02 was driven by an error in the RelaxNG schema file
[18:23] Svante Schubert: If we can bundle feedback from the 60-days public review into an editorial update without doing the process again?
[18:23] Svante Schubert: I will ask Patrick and afterwards (if necessary we will contact Paul)
[18:24] Francis Cave: Can we make editorial changes after the 60-day public review? Does this mean we have to issue a new CS, or can editorial corrections be made prior to publication?
[18:28] Svante Schubert: Alfred: Of the 11 deprecations 5 are not being listed at all.
[18:29] Svante Schubert: Alfred: The others are listed somewhere but not under deprecations.
[18:29] Alfred Hellstern: 5.3.6 <text:numbered-paragraph> (deprecated)listed in Changes Appendix under Changed elements, office-1437
5.3.7 Numbered Paragraph Style Rules (deprecated)Not listed
[18:30] Francis Cave: We should also fix the variable capitalization of deprecated/Deprecated in headings.
[18:30] Francis Cave: ...and the variable use of parentheses.
[18:31] Alfred Hellstern: 10.4.7 <draw:applet> (Deprecated)listed under Changed Elements
10.8.4 <presentation:show-text> (deprecated)Not listed
[18:32] Alfred Hellstern: 19.815.2 <draw:text-box> (deprecated)an attribute of it changed
19.815.5 <text:changed-region> (deprecated)Not listed
19.815.6 <text:h> (deprecated)Not listed
19.815.8 <text> (deprecated)Not listed
[18:32] Alfred Hellstern: 19.835 text:list-id (deprecated)listed under Changed Attributes
19.874.6 <text:numbered-paragraph> (deprecated)listed under changes for text:start-value, office-1437
19.880.25 <text:numbered-paragraph> (deprecated)listed under Changes for text:style-name, office-1437
[18:33] Svante Schubert: I will create a GitHub issue after the call for this editorial change.
[18:34] Svante Schubert: -----
[18:34] Svante Schubert: 5. Simplify Line Height handling
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3847
[18:46] Svante Schubert: Please review the proposal till next time.
[18:46] Svante Schubert: ------
[18:46] Svante Schubert: 6. [text] additional text-properties for extra border attributes
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843
[18:52] Svante Schubert: Regina: Do we like to become compatible with HTML/CSS shadows?
[18:52] Regina Henschel: Problem 2: Is the following character drawn at top of a shadow or behind it?
[18:53] Regina Henschel: Problem 3: Border at end of lines drawn if border continues to next line?
[18:54] Regina Henschel: Problem 1: Be more interoperable with Word or with Web?
[18:58] Regina Henschel: Problem 4: How does border, margin, shadow ... influence the line-height?
[18:59] Svante Schubert: Francis and Alfred will take a look at the shadow feature in OOXML.
[19:02] Svante Schubert: Regina: Before fixing 3843 we should fix: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3947
[19:02] Svante Schubert: bye


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