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Subject: Notes from ODF TC Teleconference 20 September 2021


Notes from the ODF TC Teleconference on 20 September 2021 follow below.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!



Patrick: quorum - yes
Patrick: agenda - approved by consent
Patrick: minutes 13 Sept 2021 - approved by consent
Patrick: 4. - Michael - so far - no conforming implementations in existence - tried two others - Caligra - did not care about the order of the attribute - until now only have applications that don't care or that don't do what the standard says.
Patrick: Michael - doesn't say what order it handles the order of the attributes -
Patrick: Andreas - if I read a document and read the values - and can't display correctly - Michael tried both orders with no difference in display
Patrick: oX documents - OpenExchange - can be 1 hour free on the website
Patrick: Michael - have a real problem - implementations did it the opposite way - hypothetical problem that some applications may exist that do it like the standard says
Patrick: And the opposite way is the most common way
Patrick: don't remember reversing the standard previously
Patrick: Regina - in very early stage for ODF 1.4 - if complaints on this change - could still act on such a complaint
Patrick: Andreas - should not be ODF 1.4 if we introduce a breaking change - say ODF 2.0 if a breaking change
Regina Henschel: Alternative: exchange order as errata in ODF 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3
Patrick: Regina thinks errata would work, as does Michael
Patrick: Andreas - avoids breaking change -
Michael Stahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software
Alfred Hellstern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
Patrick: Lists of implementations that may conflict with the proposed change
Patrick: Michael has attached a new test file to: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4110
Patrick: Regina - ask the producer and/or if test, add a comment to the issue
Patrick: Task on TC to review these (and any other discovered ODF applications) for this issue and their handling of value order
Patrick: draw markers for the draw:enhanced-path of a custom shape
Patrick: Regina has gotten no response on how to draw such markerts
Patrick: markerts -> markers
Patrick: from LO
Patrick: Regina to create an issue for proper tracking
Andreas: I need to leave, sorry.
Alfred Hellstern: mail thread with MS experts still ongoing, nothing definitve to report as of yet
Patrick: adjourned

Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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