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Subject: RE: [oic] application scenario The Hague


Rob,

I like the sense of this.

I'm not sure I understand the "dynamic" of dynamic equivalence, but another
case, at least for text documents, is also preservation of links -
cross-references in the document and also cross-references from the table of
contents to the respective locations in the document.  There's also the
matter of preservation of appropriate connections when pagination of the
document is different for the consumer than the original producer.

Is this the kind of thing that goes in that category? 

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 17:13
To: Hanssens Bart
Cc: michiel@nlnet.nl; oic@lists.oasis-open.org; Stephen.Peront@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [oic] application scenario The Hague

Hi Bart,

What you have there is similar to how I was thinking of an application 
scenario.  The only thing I would add is some sort of testing criteria. 
Obviously not every application is going to render these steps 
identically, at the pixel level.  Similarly, when a document is exchanged 
between two applications, it will not appear identically, at the pixel 
level.  So what defines successful interoperability?  We don't need to 
answer this completely, but we can probably have a section that lists a 
few items to check.  Could even be done as test assertions, but that might 
be overkill. 

But perhaps something like:

1) Content equivalence -- no text is lost
2) Structural equivalence - headers, footers, tables, are preserved as 
headers, footers, etc.
3) Dynamic equivalence - style names are preserved, live field names 
remain live
4) Presentation equivalence - page size, margins, font sizes and styles, 
etc., preserved

For spreadsheet, I do have the test cases from the Beijing workshop.  I 
think we can can make useful progress with those, since we're very close 
already, from the formula calculation perspective. 

And remember, we have the Shah/Kesan test documents as well, which are 
self-describing.  Maybe if converted into PDF, they can be used as 
examples for people to replicate in their own implementation. 

But we should note that the more complicated the scenario, the more 
important it is for us to get these to attendees in advance of the 
workshop, so they can prepare.  In fact, I think we need this all ready by 
the end of this week -- June 5th.

Regards,

-Rob

Hanssens Bart <Bart.Hanssens@fedict.be> wrote on 05/27/2009 05:21:40 PM:

> 
> Hi Rob, Stephen,
> 
> 
> by any chance, did you guys had the time to take a look at this 
> scenario that can perhaps be used in The Hague ?
> 
> Stephen, is it more or less in line with what you're working on, or 
> would you have something else in mind ?
> IIRC Rob, during the last call you mentioned reusing some of the 
> spreadsheet tests ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Bart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I've submitted a proposal for an "application scenario" that could 
> be used in The Hague interop event.
> 
> 
> It consists of:
> 
> - oic-expensesheet.html, a description on how to create such an expense 
sheet
> 
> - oic-expensesheet-example-ooo31.odt, an _example_ created in 
> OpenOffice.org 3.1 (so this isn't necessarily _the_ "correct" 
> version or something, just _a_ version)
> 
> - a PDF-version of this document, for viewing purposes
> 
> 
> So, it should be possible to (re)create the expense sheet in various
> other ODF-capable products, compare them, toss them around in other 
> products etc to see how interoperable this is...
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Bart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: workgroup_mailer@lists.oasis-open.org [
> mailto:workgroup_mailer@lists.oasis-open.org] 
> Sent: maandag 25 mei 2009 11:46
> To: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [oic] Version Control Commit by bart.hanssens
> 
> Author: bart.hanssens
> Date: 2009-05-25 05:46:17 -0400 (Mon, 25 May 2009)
> New Revision: 90
> Web View: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/
> oic/?rev=90&sc=1
> 
> Added:
>    AppScenarios/
>    AppScenarios/branches/
>    AppScenarios/branches/TheHague/
>    AppScenarios/branches/TheHague/appscenarios/
>    AppScenarios/branches/TheHague/appscenarios/layout.css
>    AppScenarios/branches/TheHague/appscenarios/oic-expensesheet-
> example-ooo31.odt
>    AppScenarios/branches/TheHague/appscenarios/oic-expensesheet-
> example-ooo31.pdf
>    AppScenarios/branches/TheHague/appscenarios/oic-expensesheet.html
>    AppScenarios/tags/
>    AppScenarios/trunk/
> Log:
> - added expense sheet application scenario for The Hague interop event
> 
> 
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