RE: [oic] Suggestion of how to define tests for ODF 1.2 - part 1 - ODF Schema

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

Svante,

PS: I think you need to look in the charter at what is explicitly out of
scope and how the list of deliverables is expressed to qualify what some of
the scope statements mean.  While there is talk about scoring, I think the
first stage is to be able to conduct assessments at all using guidance and
revealing documents from the OIC.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 09:29
To: Svante.Schubert@Sun.COM; 'Andreas J. Guelzow'
Cc: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [oic] Suggestion of how to define tests for ODF 1.2 - part 1 -
ODF Schema

I think it is about more than open-ness.

[ ... ]

There is no way to come up with test harnesses and test fixtures that are
neutral, however open they are, in these cases.  I think that is why our
charter is worded differently in that regard, and that it is useful that the
charter speaks of *assessment* methodology, recommended actions, and
reporting.  But that can't know how those actions are carried out and what
an implementation provides for doing so.  I don't think the test corpus can
be anything but sample documents and words on paper (or in the documents or
companion material).

 - Dennis 

-----Original Message-----
From: Svante.Schubert@Sun.COM [mailto:Svante.Schubert@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 07:48
To: Andreas J. Guelzow
Cc: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [oic] Suggestion of how to define tests for ODF 1.2 - part 1 -
ODF Schema

On 03/02/10 19:39, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
> I do not think that test description are not desired, but I disagree
> "test execution is work that might be delegated to" any _single_
> implementor group.
> 
> If we want to delegate this we should simply say that we view it as the
> responsibility of _every_ implementor group.

I understand, you are concerned about openness.
If we only agree on working on this together, the details may follow.

As far as I see it, these descriptions have aside of plug-fest (which is 
first on our list), the second highest priority on our scope of work in 
our charter:
	http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/oic/charter.php

Do you find the approach reasonable,  Andreas? Would you support such an 
effort?

Hope you have a nice week-end !
Svante






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