RE: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODF Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

FYI,

The colors and other features of how tracked-changes are shown are
definitely individual application settings that, unfortunately are not
communicated as part of the document (by anybody that I know of).

What I do for DIFFs, because of that, is make settings that provide desired
appearance, and then save that change-tracking-shown version as PDF.  The
PDF preserves the selected appearance.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 13:38
To: Mary McRae
Cc: Kim Goolsby; oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODF
Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06

Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/07/2010 04:08:24 PM:

> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
>   Please make the following changes:
> 
> 1. Accept change tracking on cover pages/running footers. The result
> is impossible to read. (see html screenshot below)
> 
> [attachment "2010-10-07_15.57.49.png" deleted by Robert 
Weir/Cambridge/IBM] 
> 

OK.


> 2. I have no idea where the use of gold came from for noting 
> insertions and deletions. It's not part of the style; please revert to 
black.
> 

I think this is an app setting, not part of the style.  The color of the 
change tracking varies by the user, so you can distinguish the changes 
from multiple users.  Why it picked gold for my color is a mystery.  In 
any case, I overrode the automatic color assignment in 
Tools\Options\Writer\Changes, to make it all black. 

> 3. Since the change marks aren't properly displayed in the html 
> version, please approve all changes and then produce the html file.
> 

Done.

> 
> None of these changes should require a new TC vote; please send 
> updated files to Kim.
>

Attached are the revised files.  Thanks again!

-Rob


 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 9:52 AM, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi Kim,
> > 
> > What you will see with the ODT file will depend on your view mode in 
your 
> > app.
> > 
> > If you are using OpenOffice.org you can go to Edit/Changes/Show and 
you 
> > should see change tracking.  That should reveal Appendix B as well. My 

> > guess is the TOC inconsistency is just  a limitation in OO.  But it 
looks 
> > right to me if you enable show change tracking.  Of course, after the 
> > review, when we "accept" all changes, these issues go away as well.
> > 
> > If you need the ODT file to show the changes by default, you can just 
> > re-save the document after enabling that setting.  Or if you want I 
can 
> > upload a new version with that enabled.  But before I do that, could 
you 
> > try it on your machine and let me know whether there are any other 
changes 
> > required, or whether that clears up the other inconsistencies you were 

> > reporting?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > -Rob
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/07/2010 08:19:15 
AM:
> >> 
> >> Subject:
> >> 
> >> Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODF 
> >> Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> >> 
> >> Hi Rob,
> >> 
> >> The odt file does not show the markup, just the html & pdf files do.
> >> I've attached pictures of each file's title page to illustrate what I 

> > mean. 
> >> 
> >> Also, the odt file shows two appendix A's. The html & pdf files show
> >> Appendix A & B.
> >> 
> >> The odt file is different from the html & pdf files in two aspects. 
> >> So, it appears that the odt file was not used to generate the pdf & 
> >> html files.
> >> 
> >> I believe that all the files should look like the attached odt (once
> >> the appendix numbering [lettering] is corrected). Mary will correct 
> >> me if I'm wrong but I haven't QC'd other specs at this stage that 
> >> show markup. Instead, a diff file was delivered with the spec.
> >> 
> >> Please let me know of any other questions and comments. 
> >> 
> >> Best,
> >> Kim
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, <robert_weir@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >> Kim,
> >> 
> >> Can you give us some examples of what you mean by "shows markup 
rather
> >> than the final view"?   Since this is a follow-up 15-day public 
review, 
> > I
> >> believe that we are required to show the change tracking from the 
> > previous
> >> public review.  That probably explains everything that you are 
seeing.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -Rob
> >> 
> >> Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/06/2010 04:15:28 

> > PM:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODF
> >>> Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> >>> 
> >>> TCADMIN-245
> >>> 
> >>> Please make the following changes to this document:
> >>> 
> >>> 1. Please change the Revision History appendix to Appendix B.
> >>> Appendix B shows in the Table of Contents but the actual header on
> >>> page 17 of the odt file shows Appendix A.
> >>> 
> >>> 2. The html file's title page shows garbled information. Please
> >>> regenerate this file, making sure that 'Hidden Paragraphs' &
> >>> 'Nonprinting Characters' are turned off in the 'View' menu.
> >>> 
> >>> 3. The pdf file also shows markup rather than the final view. Please
> >>> regenerate this file, making sure that 'Hidden Paragraphs' &
> >>> 'Nonprinting Characters' are turned off in the 'View' menu.
> >>> 
> >>> Please let me know of any questions or comments.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Kim
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Kim Goolsby
> >>> Publications Specialist
> >>> OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information society
> >>> email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org
> >>> web: www.oasis-open.org
> >>> phone: 1.734.223.6890
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Kim Goolsby
> >> Publications Specialist
> >> OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information society
> >> email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org 
> >> web: www.oasis-open.org
> >> phone: 1.734.223.6890[attachment "state of interop html.png" deleted
> >> by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM] [attachment "state of interop pdf.png"
> >> deleted by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM] [attachment "state of interop 
> >> odt.png" deleted by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM] 
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