Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODFInteroperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06

[robert_weir@us.ibm.com]

Kim,

Here you go.  Three clean copies and one diff.  Since I have not seen any 
naming guidelines on the diff copy, I just added "-diff" to the end.  Feel 
free to rename it as needed.

Regards,

-Rob



Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/07/2010 09:33:22 PM:

> 
> Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODF 
> Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> 
> Yes, three clean copies & a separate diffs file would work perfectly. 
Thanks!

> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
<dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> > wrote:
> I think it is clean copies of all three, plus a separate change-tracked
> version (I prefer .PDF for that because of client implementation and 
setting
> differences, and you could make sure the colors work for your eyes [;<).
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 17:48
> To: dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> Cc: 'Kim Goolsby'; 'Mary McRae'; oic@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of 
ODF
> Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> 
> So what do we give then?  Change tracked version of ODF only, and then
> clean copies of PDF and HTML?
> 
> But that doesn't make all three copies the same, which was what Kim was
> mentioning.
> 
> -Rob
> 
> "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote on 10/07/2010
> 08:30:31 PM:
> >
> > I think what is being pointed out is that full, changes-accepted
> versions
> > are reviewed, but that supplemental change-tracked copies are provided
> for
> > the use of reviewers in addition to the clean, final-form versions.
> >
> > This is how I have seen it happening on other TCs.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com [mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 16:24
> > To: Kim Goolsby
> > Cc: Mary McRae; oic@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State 
of
> ODF
> > Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> >
> > Hi Kim,
> >
> > I think Mary was asking to accept all of the changes in the HTML
> version,
> > but only the changes on the cover and footer on the other versions.
> >
> > Or am I misunderstanding her three requests?
> >
> > Making all three documents identical is certainly possible, but then
> we're
> > not showing change tracking, which we're required to do as well.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/07/2010 05:40:10
> PM:
> >
> > >
> > > Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of ODF
> > > Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> > >
> > > The files still don't quite match. For the html, all changes were
> > > approved, so we see no markup. However, the odt & pdf files still
> > > show markup in the appendices. We need all three versions to be
> > > identical. Would you mind accepting all changes in the odt file,
> > > then re-generating it & and the pdf files?
> > >
> > > Thanks much!
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:38 PM, <robert_weir@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/07/2010 04:08:24
> PM:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Rob,
> > > >
> > > >   Please make the following changes:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Accept change tracking on cover pages/running footers. The 
result
> > > > is impossible to read. (see html screenshot below)
> > > >
> > > > [attachment "2010-10-07_15.57.49.png" deleted by Robert
> > > Weir/Cambridge/IBM]
> > > >
> > >
> > > OK.
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2. I have no idea where the use of gold came from for noting
> > > > insertions and deletions. It's not part of the style; please 
revert
> to
> > > black.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think this is an app setting, not part of the style.  The color of
> the
> > > change tracking varies by the user, so you can distinguish the 
changes
> > > from multiple users.  Why it picked gold for my color is a mystery. 
In
> > > any case, I overrode the automatic color assignment in
> > > Tools\Options\Writer\Changes, to make it all black.
> > >
> > > > 3. Since the change marks aren't properly displayed in the html
> > > > version, please approve all changes and then produce the html 
file.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Done.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > None of these changes should require a new TC vote; please send
> > > > updated files to Kim.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Attached are the revised files.  Thanks again!
> > >
> > > -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Mary
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 7, 2010, at 9:52 AM, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Kim,
> > > > >
> > > > > What you will see with the ODT file will depend on your view 
mode
> in
> > > your
> > > > > app.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are using OpenOffice.org you can go to Edit/Changes/Show
> and
> > > you
> > > > > should see change tracking.  That should reveal Appendix B as
> well.
> > My
> > >
> > > > > guess is the TOC inconsistency is just  a limitation in OO.  But
> it
> > > looks
> > > > > right to me if you enable show change tracking.  Of course, 
after
> > the
> > > > > review, when we "accept" all changes, these issues go away as
> well.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you need the ODT file to show the changes by default, you can
> > just
> > > > > re-save the document after enabling that setting.  Or if you 
want
> I
> > > can
> > > > > upload a new version with that enabled.  But before I do that,
> could
> > > you
> > > > > try it on your machine and let me know whether there are any 
other
> > > changes
> > > > > required, or whether that clears up the other inconsistencies 
you
> > were
> > >
> > > > > reporting?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/07/2010
> > 08:19:15
> > > AM:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Subject:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Re: [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of
> ODF
> > > > >> Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Rob,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The odt file does not show the markup, just the html & pdf 
files
> > do.
> > > > >> I've attached pictures of each file's title page to illustrate
> what
> > I
> > >
> > > > > mean.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Also, the odt file shows two appendix A's. The html & pdf files
> > show
> > > > >> Appendix A & B.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The odt file is different from the html & pdf files in two
> aspects.
> > > > >> So, it appears that the odt file was not used to generate the 
pdf
> &
> > > > >> html files.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I believe that all the files should look like the attached odt
> > (once
> > > > >> the appendix numbering [lettering] is corrected). Mary will
> correct
> > > > >> me if I'm wrong but I haven't QC'd other specs at this stage 
that
> > > > >> show markup. Instead, a diff file was delivered with the spec.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Please let me know of any other questions and comments.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best,
> > > > >> Kim
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, <robert_weir@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Kim,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you give us some examples of what you mean by "shows markup
> > > rather
> > > > >> than the final view"?   Since this is a follow-up 15-day public
> > > review,
> > > > > I
> > > > >> believe that we are required to show the change tracking from 
the
> > > > > previous
> > > > >> public review.  That probably explains everything that you are
> > > seeing.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Rob
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Kim Goolsby <kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org> wrote on 10/06/2010
> > 04:15:28
> > >
> > > > > PM:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> [oic] Changes required to submitted document - The State of 
ODF
> > > > >>> Interoperability Version 1.0 Committee Draft 06
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> TCADMIN-245
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please make the following changes to this document:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 1. Please change the Revision History appendix to Appendix B.
> > > > >>> Appendix B shows in the Table of Contents but the actual 
header
> on
> > > > >>> page 17 of the odt file shows Appendix A.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2. The html file's title page shows garbled information. 
Please
> > > > >>> regenerate this file, making sure that 'Hidden Paragraphs' &
> > > > >>> 'Nonprinting Characters' are turned off in the 'View' menu.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 3. The pdf file also shows markup rather than the final view.
> > Please
> > > > >>> regenerate this file, making sure that 'Hidden Paragraphs' &
> > > > >>> 'Nonprinting Characters' are turned off in the 'View' menu.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Please let me know of any questions or comments.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thank you,
> > > > >>> Kim
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Kim Goolsby
> > > > >>> Publications Specialist
> > > > >>> OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information 
society
> > > > >>> email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org
> > > > >>> web: www.oasis-open.org
> > > > >>> phone: 1.734.223.6890
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Kim Goolsby
> > > > >> Publications Specialist
> > > > >> OASIS Open: Advancing open standards for the information 
society
> > > > >> email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org
> > > > >> web: www.oasis-open.org
> > > > >> phone: 1.734.223.6890[attachment "state of interop html.png"
> > deleted
> > > > >> by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM] [attachment "state of interop
> > pdf.png"
> > > > >> deleted by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM] [attachment "state of
> interop
> > > > >> odt.png" deleted by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Publications Specialist
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> > > email: kim.goolsby@oasis-open.org
> > > web: www.oasis-open.org
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