OIC TC 2011-02-09 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 9 February 2011
Time:  14:30 - 15:30 UT


1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
 (doesn't count for attendance)

The call-in numbers: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/200903/msg00017.html>
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the call-in numbers:
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201102/msg00001.html>


The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php>

This is a short meeting.  The Chair has a conflict with the end of our call.

1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
8 of 9 Voting members attended, satisfying the 5 of 9 requirement for a quorum.

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE

    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Don Harbison, IBM
    * Mingfei Jia, IBM
    * Robert Weir, IBM
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
    * Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
    * Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
    + Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
    = Svante Schubert, Oracle Corporation
    * Louis Suarez-Potts, Oracle Corporation

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (8)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (1)]

    MEMBERS ABSENT

      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
  * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
      Peter Junge, Individual
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazemar Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
  = Michael Brauer, Oracle Corporation
      Daniel Rentz, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense

      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (1)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (1)]

1.2 ACCEPTANCE OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES

Minutes for the 2011-01-26 Meeting, accepted without objection  <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201102/msg00000.html>


1.3 ACCEPTANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA: accepted without objection
 < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201102/msg00001.html>


2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS

  #0015 Template Scenarios.  Dennis reports no progress.
  #0026 Test Scenarios.  Cherie reports the license and the package are being updated.  The target is next week (ending 02-11).
  #0033 Best Practices for Document Authors.   Rob says this is in-progress work that he will return to after the February Plugfest.  On checking for a Committee Note template, Rob established that we need to agree on a title and submit an administrative request for a template under the new procedure.  A tailored template will be returned for our use.
  #0034 Interop Demo Videos.  Bart has to make the DVDs and then arrange for the videos to be posted with Louis.
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessments.  Rob proposes to unofficially try out some ODF 1.2 features on existing implementations (1.2 or not) at the Plugfest.  He has the financial functions spreadsheet already.  We discussed a little about how these materials would be organized and provided by the OIC TC.

3. DELIVERABLES

3.1 Interop Advisories

Bart has not created any new ones, and what's there is still under review at the moment.  There has been no feedback on the existing ones.

Rob observed that there are two streams.  The Plugfest stream on roughly quarterly intervals provides experience that can inspire advisories.  With regard to OASIS work-product production, it takes more than six months to create a Committee Note, counting the public reviews and other built-in delays.  So we might want to cycle committee drafts and only do a Committee Note annually, having done several Committee Drafts on our way to that.

Also, there are major features as they come along in the ODF TC.  There is a need for test documents for those features being developed in the OIC TC, but we have a bottleneck in relying on the same resources in both committees.

Rob suggested that we need to find a small number of activities that we can execute consistently on.

3.2 ODF 1.2 Test Document (e.g., OpenFormula, RDF)

We want to see the OpenFormula Financial/Date function-check documents move forward.

Bart would like to see something with regard to RDF.

Rob has a presentation on RDF and different levels of interoperability that can be checked with test documents:

  - If there is [RDF] metadata in the document, will it load
  - Is the metadata preserved in the document 
  - Is it adjusted when sections having metadata are edited [and this could apply to either in-line RDFa and RDF metadata files in the same package]
  - Is there interactive support for supplying, observing, presenting the metadata
Rob will write an outline about this and put it on the mailing list.

Svante had written an XSLT transform and some GRDDL for extracting the RDF from an ODF Document.   The tools for interop between the ODF document and RDF-centric applications come in as an additional dimension.  It would be useful to have a GRDDL and transforms at a known location for reference in test documents that have the GRDDL attribute in the document root.  Svante wants to repair a couple of issues with his materials and will take an action item to then contribute them.

4. ODF PLUGFEST IN THE UK <http://www.odfplugfest.co.uk/>

Bart provided a status update.  There will probably be 1-2 more Plugfests in 2011, but there are no details at this point.

Any test documents OIC TC members contribute can be exercised at the Plugfest and the feedback used by the OIC to write advisories, updates tests, reflect in our report on interoperability, etc.

Louis will submit more of his thinking on how we proceed more officially with regard to managing deliverables to Plugfests.


5. ROUND TABLE

5.1 FOSDEM 2011.  We don't have any information on what may have come up around ODF and interoperability at FOSDEM.  No one on the call had attended and knew of any report.

5.2 Interchange of XML Documents.  Rob had reported a request for papers that might be of interest to OIC TC members, <http://www.balisage.net/interchange/index.html>.

5.3 ODF 1.2.  Rob reported that ODF 1.2 CSD07 has been approved.  The ODF TC is waiting for the TC Administration to issue the Public Review documents and announce a 15-day review.

6. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

There is no call on 2011-02-23 because of proximity to the Plugfest.

The next call will be on 2011-03-09.  We will agree on adjustments for the onset of Summer Time at that call.


Respectfully submitted,

  Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary