OIC TC 2011-10-19 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 19 October 2011
Time:  13:30 - 14:30 UT
 
1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
 <https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239>
 
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in
< http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201110/msg00035.html>
The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php> 
 
 
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The 3/5 voting members present satisfied the 3/5 quorum requirement.
 
    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
      Svante Schubert, Individual
    + Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
      John Haug, Microsoft

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (3)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
    * Don Harbison, IBM
      Mingfei Jia, IBM
    - Robert Weir, IBM
      Peter Junge, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense
 
      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (1)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
Minutes for the 2011-10-05 Meeting, approved without objection: 
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201110/msg00012.html>

1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved after addition of 4.2 without objection:
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201110/msg00035.html>
 
2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
  #0015 Template Scenarios.  Dennis reported no progress.  
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  No report
  #0042 Update Draft Advisory 00005 
1.2 was reviewed and Advisory 00005 does not apply to it.  The advisory needs to be adjusted to promote consistency with 1.2.
  #0043 Update Draft Advisory 00004 It appears from the discussion that some required updating is needed to ensure that the exclusive cases are all covered.
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002 [New: Svante and Dennis to work this out on the list.  See the discussion of #00002 in 3.1, below.]
    
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Interop Advisories, <http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/> and <http://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/InteropAdvisories>

#00002 - Trailing slash in URIs of embedded documents
Svante was available and Dennis pointed out that there are two interlocking issues - how files are named in the Zip and in the mainfest and how non-file structure (i.e., paths shared by one or more files) are handled in the manifest whether or not reflected in the Zip.  Then there is the matter of how URIs in the document are resolved to objects in the manifest.  It also needs to be clear that the manifest:full-path entry is not a URI.  ODF 1.2 was examined to find out whether there was any clarity beyond what is in ODF 1.0/1.1 and it was found to be less clear.  There is also a question about manifest:media-type and the use of "" for an empty MIME Type (when there is no such thing in the MIME specification).
  ACTION: Svante and Dennis will work through this on the list and by breaking up the advisory into multiples as appropriate.

#00004 - #00005 will be updated.

#00006 - ODF 1.2 SHA1 URI errors.  Bart will start an e-Ballot on elevating this advisory to a Candidate.

#00007 - The proposal is to simplify what the consequences really are, and what the constraints really are, but not deprecate anything.  A clear explanation can be made in an Errata to ODF 1.2 and 1.3 could adopt that or may even extend it (so that 1.2 is a subset).
  Andreas and Dennis will thrash this out on the list.  Question: Dennis was fairly certain that <table:table-columns> only has one or more <table:table-column> child elements and likewise <table:table-rows> only has one or more <table:table-row> elements, so there are never groups under these and hence can never be headers under them either.  This will be double-checked. 

#00008 - Signature name spaces.  Test cases are still needed.  Bart has a small script and it needs to be verified somehow.  When valid use of prefixes is used in a digital signature part, it is awkward if the signature is not itself verifiable for some reason.

#00009 - is in progress and does not have enough material to be discussed yet.

3.2 Other Deliverables - Not discussed

4. ROUND TABLE
 
4.1 The new Plugfest site is now on-line at <http://odfplugfest.org/>.  The wiki is still at <http://plugtest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php>.

4.2 Louis reviewed other events he was aware of although there did not seem to be anything definite for OIC.

4.3 The HTML5 and Mobile ODF is of interest, with a question of how to embrace it.  It is difficult to have visibility on what is happening in proprietary mobile products.

5. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The next teleconference meeting is November 2.  It will be at the same UTC time, but the European participants will need to remember that their time zone offset will have changed with the passing of summer/daylight-saving time.  North America will still be on DST where it is observed.

November 16 is the day before the Plugfest and attendees will be traveling already.  There will be no OIC call on that date.


Respectfully submitted,

  Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary