OIC TC 2012-03-07 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 7 March 2012
Time:  14:30 - 15:30 UT
 
1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
 <https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239>
 
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201203/msg00000.html>

The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php> 
 
 
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The 4/6 voting members present satisfied the 4/6 quorum requirement for start of the meeting.  Theq quorum expanded to 5/6 with arrival of Rob Weir after the initial roll call.
 
    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
      Don Harbison, IBM
    + Mingfei Jia, IBM
    * Rob Weir, IBM
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
      Svante Schubert, Individual
    * John Haug, Microsoft

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (5)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
    - Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense
 
      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (0)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
Minutes for the 2012-02-22 Meeting, approved without objection: 
   < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201202/msg00005.html>

1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, modified to add default-style discussion, approved without objection:
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201203/msg00000.html>
 
2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
  #0015 Template Scenarios.  No progress 
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  Rob is looking for RDF tests.
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002  - no progress.  Dennis says 00002 itself is easy and needs editing, but there do need to be additional related advisories.
  #0046 Update Advisory 00007 - work in-progress
    
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Results of Balloting for Candidate Advisories

The ballots for #00004 passed.  
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ballot.php?id=2180>


The ballots for #00005 passed.
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ballot.php?id=2181>

The comments that Dennis made on #00005 concerning default cases and how CSS3 handles the line-through feature were discussed.


3.2 Other Interop Advisories

The other advisories that do not have action items and are not yet candidates are

#00008 on digital signature namespaces.  Testing with the sample documents and feedback is requested.

#00009 is still a place-holder

Bart encouraged those who have ideas for other scenarios and advisories to start something.

3.3 Second "State of Interoperability" Report

This is not expected before the Plugfest.



3.4 Other Deliverables

Svante explained more about the significance of different default styles being used by different implementations, including different definitions of common pre-defined styles (Heading 1, for example).  There are situations where collaborative use of documents become inconsistent as the result of the differences.

This led to questions about how strongly there should be a mandate for known predefined styles in the ODF specification or any other way to maintain agreement.  Templates were also discussed.

There needs to be concrete use cases and a look at what are good-enough solutions, whether there is a requirements for mechanical support in implementations and any tightening, deepening of the ODF specification.  Further discussion on the list and perhaps at the ODF TC is encouraged.


4. ODF EVENTS


4.1 ODF Plugfest, April 19-20, 2012, <http://www.odfplugfest.org> 

There have been no new conference calls.  There is room for more testing proposals and presentations.  These can be suggested to the Plugfest planning list: <mailto: plugtest@opendocsociety.org>.

The Plugfest wiki also has room on the schedule: <http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:201204_brussels:info>.

4.2 Other events

There was no discussion of other events.

5. ROUND TABLE

There were no roundtable topics.

6. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The next call will be on 2012-03-21.  It was agreed that the North American local time would not change.  So the next call will be at 1330Z UTC, not 1430Z.  This change will be maintained until North American Daylight Savings Time ends.



Respectfully submitted,

  Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary