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Subject: Notes: Interoperability versus Conformance
I want to express my agreement with the clarification that has been offered with regard to interoperability and conformance. [I avoid "conformity" simply because measurable technical conformance is a more likely a functional requirement whereas interoperability is an -ility most of the time [;<). - Dennis Dennis E. Hamilton ------------------ NuovoDoc: Design for Document System Interoperability mailto:Dennis.Hamilton@acm.org | gsm:+1-206.779.9430 http://NuovoDoc.com http://ODMA.info/dev/ http://nfoWorks.org BACKGROUND MATERIALS The following discussion posts are ones that I have noticed with regard to teasing out the views on interoperability and conformance and seeing how they are resolving around the scope and deliverables for the OIC TC. I compiled this for myself so I am sharing it for the benefit of other latecomers. (I notice that I rely on Rob Weir a great deal for mid-thread statements that confirm understanding or add clarity.) 2008-06-06 Robert Weir, Re: What are we validating and why? (goes into "assessment methodology") http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00024.html 2008-06-08 Robert Weir, Interoperability versus Conformity http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00032.html 2008-06-10 Shawn Grover, Question on References http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00081.html On this thread, the issues of interoperability across versions of ODF and how processors can deal with up- and down-level matters are treated more off-hand than I'd like - I think this can be a big deal and more anticipation is called for in interoperability guidance and the ODF specifications. 2008-06-11 Sam Johnston, Re: Interoperability versus Conformity http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00097.html 2008-06-11 Robert Weir, Re: Interoperability versus Conformity (on scripting test cases) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00130.html 2008-06-12 Sam Johnston, Re: (1)(f) and (1)(g) -- audience and working language http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00128.html divergence into issues about pixel perfect and other matters of conformance and interoperability 2008-06-12 Robert Weir, Re: Caution and Disclaimer on Interoperability http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00179.html Great statement on not confusing conformance and interoperability with political agendas and fields of use and implementation that cannot be expressed without emasculating the specifications (IMHO), links to OASIS Conformance Requirements document 2008-06-12 Robert Weir, Re: Caution and Disclaimer on Interoperability http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00180.html Pointing out that interoperability is not just about the pixels but maintained functionality (and something that is going to be difficult to verify?) 2008-06-12 Robert Weir, Re: Acid Tests http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00213.html indicating some of the difficulties and, I notice, includes some material of others that are confusing conformance assessment and product certification 2008-06-12 Robert Weir, Pixel Perfection http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00188.html Nice review of pixel perfection issues, its absence among office documents except under extreme matching of configurations, and other considerations 2008-06-12 Sam Johnston, Re: (1)(f) and (1)(g) ... http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00146.html still on pixel perfection, forking into issues about font agreement 2008-06-13 Simon Calderson, Thoughts on interop http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00232.html important response concerning pixels, Acid tests, and who the audience is 2008-06-14 Jose Lorenzo, "Strictly conforming" is not related to "interoperable" http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00281.html an assertion supported by analogy to programming-language specification 2008-06-15 Jose Lorenzo, Reference implementation strikes gold http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00325.html raises interesting question of the role of a reference implementation and uses disturbing notion that OO.o is the reference implementation for ODF, something I seriously disbelieve 2008-06-16 Henrik Sundberg, ACID, roundtrip and Odf generation http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00378.html on what application interoperability depends on (though not so sure about details of the claim) 2008-06-18 Robert Weir, Re: The importance to users of documents looking the same http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00438.html on contributing to that with something achievable 2008-06-23 Robert Weir, Re: Deliverable: odf-diff http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00679.html on kinds of reports that might come about when analyzing (checking or saving) an ODF document concerning interoperability and conformance 2008-06-23 Robert Weir, Re: Profiles: suggested use-cases http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00662.html contains a vision statement for the value of this effort 2008-06-24 Michael Brauer, Re: Informative clauses http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200806/msg00707.html working over some illustrative cases using the ODF specification to come at conformance better 2008-07-01 Robert Weir, Re: List of ODF interop issues that need to be addressed http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200807/msg00033.html in the midst of a lot of discussions around extensions and foreign elements, another problem around extensions introduced to comply with a regulation 2008-07-28 David Marston, Re: draft proposal 0.3 - Establishing the conformance landscape http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oiic-formation-discuss/200807/msg00223.html [end]
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