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Subject: Re: [openc2] Re: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times


We have a motion to change it, and it has been seconded by several people.  I guess we just need a ballot to decide what everyone wants.

Bret

From: Brule, Joseph M <jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:00:56 AM
To: dave.lemire; Bret Jordan
Cc: jg; ikirillov@mitre.org; openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [openc2] Re: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times
 
If it simplifies the prioritization and makes sense to you to have a meeting
at the standard time of 13:00, then by all means do so!  In fact I will even
go so far as to say let's make 13:00 meeting times a conventional practice,
but I do NOT see the value in constraining the SC chairs, tiger team leads
etc.  with some immutable 'rule'.   If someone wants to set up a 14:00 will we
require a ballot or formal vote to suspend the rule?  I would assume that is
not anyone's intent.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Lemire [mailto:dave.lemire@g2-inc.com]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:53 AM
To: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
Cc: Brule, Joseph M <jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil>; jg <jg@ctin.us>;
ikirillov@mitre.org; openc2@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [openc2] Re: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times

I'm in complete agreement that a standard meeting time makes sense. If nothing
else, it simplifies the prioritization exercise for heavily scheduled people.

Dave



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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
<mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> > wrote:


        The benefits having a standard time far out weight any limitations that might
occur for a SC.  Give the tempo and amount of work we need to do, it would be
good to try and have as many people engaged as possible. The best way to do
that is to have predictable times that people can mark off on their calendars.




        There is no guarantee that they will be able to attend all of the meetings,
but at least they do not need to play wack-a-mole with trying to figure out
when a meeting is going to take place.




        Bret




________________________________

        From: Brule, Joseph M <jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil
<mailto:jmbrule@radium.ncsc.mil> >
        Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 5:53:04 AM
        To: 'jg'; ikirillov@mitre.org <mailto:ikirillov@mitre.org> ; Bret Jordan;
openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
        Subject: [EXT] RE: [openc2] Meeting Times


        I will make a statement against this proposal;  I am OK with the idea of
        stating that 13:00 Eastern is preferred, but I do not see the value in
        artificially constraining our subcommittee chairs and/or team leads.  I
        disagree with making this some sort of rule (other than a rule of thumb)

          VR

        Joe B

        -----Original Message-----
        From: openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
[mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> ] On
        Behalf Of jg
        Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 9:34 PM
        To: ikirillov@mitre.org <mailto:ikirillov@mitre.org> ;
Bret_Jordan@symantec.com <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> ;
openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>
        Subject: Re: [openc2] Meeting Times

        OpenC2 Members:

        I also concur on this proposal.

        Jane Ginn, MSIA, MRP
        Secretary, CTI TC
        OASIS
        jg@ctin.us <mailto:jg@ctin.us>
        In U.S.: +(928) 399-0509 <tel:(928)%20399-0509>




        -------- Original Message --------
        From: "Kirillov, Ivan A." <ikirillov@mitre.org <mailto:ikirillov@mitre.org> >
        Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:32 AM
        To: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
 >,"openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org>  "
        <openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> >
        Subject: Re: [openc2] Meeting Times



        I second this motion.



        Regards,

        Ivan



        From: <openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> > on
behalf of Bret Jordan
        <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com <mailto:Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> >
        Date: Friday, July 7, 2017 at 11:22 AM
        To: "openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> "
<openc2@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:openc2@lists.oasis-open.org> >
        Subject: [openc2] Meeting Times



        All,



        I would like to motion that we move and set all OpenC2 meetings to be at
13:00
        ET, regardless of the day.  This will make it easier for participants to have
        predictability in the schedule and will prevent conflicts when SC and working
        groups pick ad-hoc times.



        Bret






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