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Subject: RE: [opencsa-liaison] Use of "may", "must", etc.
Sanjay, Check the minutes of the Policy TC from Oct 1, I'll paste it here: Sanjay: Open CSA Steering Committee's recommendation regarding use of RFC 2119 keywords (and versioning): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca- policy/200710/msg00000.html Sanjay: The Steering Committee (SC) recommends to each SCA Technical Committee to use the RFC 2119 keywords along with the following restrictions in their specifications: a) All RFC 2119 keywords will be of the uppercase form (for example, RFC 2119 keywords MUST be capitalized) b) Use of lower-case 2119 keywords will not be used in the spec. When the use of 2119 keyword is needed, without having the implications wrt conformance, a suitable synonym will be found. c) RFC 2119 defines keywords that are synonyms of each other. For example 'SHALL' and 'MUST' mean the same thing. The TC should not use multiple forms to mean the same. Therefore the TC should use 'MUST' instead of 'SHALL' and 'MUST NOT' instead of 'SHALL NOT' through out the spec. Sanjay: Moves to accept the resolution as proposed by the SC Martin Chapman: seconds Resolution 3: Use RFC 2119 keywords as recommended by the Open CSA SC, accepted unanimously So yes, we accepted RFC2119 + some stuff. I think the other TCs did someting similar. Dave Booz STSM, SCA and WebSphere Architecture Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC "Distributed objects first, then world hunger" Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093 e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com http://washome.austin.ibm.com/xwiki/bin/view/SCA2Team/WebHome "Patil, Sanjay" <sanjay.patil@sap .com> To <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>, Bryan 12/04/2007 10:34 Aupperle/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS AM cc <opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.o rg> Subject RE: [opencsa-liaison] Use of "may", "must", etc. If we did that (that is treat the terms in lower-case differently from their upper-case version), then our specs can not claim full compliance with RFC 2119, since RFC 2119 does not differentiate the key words based on their case. The problem with invoking RFC 2119 only for upper-case keywords would be that - we might be upsetting a lot of readers out there who have by now started expecting a full compliance with RFC 2119. Bryan, could you give us one or two examples of the awkwardness you faced while substituting the RFC terms? Perhaps we can just identify the common situations of such awkwardness and try to come up with some alternative terms that can be uniformly used by all the SCA specs. -- Sanjay > -----Original Message----- > From: ashok malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com] > Sent: Tuesday, Dec 04, 2007 6:32 AM > To: Bryan Aupperle > Cc: opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [opencsa-liaison] Use of "may", "must", etc. > > Hi Bryan: > I agree that this is a problem. My alternate proposal is that the > upper-case words indicate the RFC 2119 keywords and the > lower-case words > indicate normal English usage. But not everyone likes this solution. > > Bryan Aupperle wrote: > > > > > I believe all of the TCs have adopted use of RFC 2119 keywords in > > uppercase only and to not use the keywords in lower-case > form at all, > > using synonyms when necessary. We have started scrubbing > the C++ spec > > to eliminate use of "may", "must", etc. and found that some rather > > awkward language can result Has anyone else started this exercise > > and how are your results? > > > > Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D. > > STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect > > Master Inventor > > > > Research Triangle Park, NC > > +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508) > > Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com > > > > -- > All the best, Ashok > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all > your TCs in OASIS > at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgr > oups.php > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
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