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Subject: RE: [opencsa-liaison] RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs....
Thanks Ashok, Here's a good example showing interrelationships: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200702 http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsmc/200702 Regards, Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: ashok malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:34 PM > To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org > Cc: 'Mike Edwards'; 'OASIS Assembly'; opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [opencsa-liaison] RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and > Specification CDs.... > > > And who will be providing the requisite namespace document? > > Mary, if you point me to one or more examples I will write the namespace > document. > > Ashok > > Mary McRae wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > One of the concerns expressed when the notion of a common namespace > > was initially brought up was the matter of control and approval. I > > believe that sca-policy was directed by the sca-assembly TC to use > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200712. While this document > > has not yet gone for Public Review, and no namespace document was > > provided, I would like to ensure that this is all worked out before > > more documents get to the Committee Draft / Public Review stage. > > Sca-bpel is **also** using the 200712 namespace. Who will instruct the > > TCs that the namespace used in their specifications needs to be > > updated? Should all namespace requests be handled by the Open CSA > > Liaison subcommittee? > > > > > > > > And who will be providing the requisite namespace document? > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Mike Edwards [mailto:mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:25 PM > > *To:* OASIS Assembly > > *Subject:* RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... > > > > > > > > > > Martin, Sanjay, > > > > Thanks for digging this out. So, the formal proposal, which should be > > placed into the CD of the Assembly spec is: > > > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200803 > > > > Now, this episode says also the following: > > > > a) we need to make clearer decisions as recorded in the meeting > > minutes - this is a case of something very > > confusing being recorded. Not blaming anyone but myself as chair for > > that, but it does need to change. > > > > b) we need to vote again on the format, since there is a change > > (forced by OASIS) from the format agreed by the TC > > - don't think that anyone will object, but I'd like to see a formal > > agreement to the actual format that we're going to use > > > > > > Yours, Mike. > > > > Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO. > > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC. > > IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain. > > Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 > > Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com > > > > *"Patil, Sanjay" <sanjay.patil@sap.com>* > > > > 26/02/2008 16:26 > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > "Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com>, "OASIS Assembly" > > <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org> > > > > cc > > > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you follow the link in Martin's email below and open the attachment > > pointed at the bottom of that link, you will find the right proposal > > [1] for the namespace URI design. > > > > The additional change OASIS staff later required is - insertion of the > > token 'ns' in the namespace URI. > > > > Assuming that the ballot for the first CD passes in Mar 2008, then the > > namespace URI that would be compliant with the proposal we have > > adopted and that incorporates the change suggested by the OASIS staff > > would look as follows: > > > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200803 > > > > -- Sanjay > > > > [1] > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- > assembly/email/archives/200710/bin00002.bin > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* Martin Chapman [mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com] * > > Sent:* Tuesday, Feb 26, 2008 8:04 AM* > > To:* 'OASIS Assembly'* > > Subject:* RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... > > > > Here's a link to the mail i thought we had agreed. > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- > assembly/email/archives/200710/msg00096.html > > > > -----Original Message-----* > > From:* Martin Chapman [mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com] * > > Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:53 PM* > > To:* 'Mike Edwards'; 'OASIS Assembly'* > > Subject:* RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... > > > > This is not what I thought we had agreed to do. We only need to rev > > the namespace when non-backwards compatible changes are made, not at > > each CD etc. > > > > Martin. > > -----Original Message-----* > > From:* Mike Edwards [mailto:mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com] * > > Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:02 AM* > > To:* OASIS Assembly* > > Subject:* [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... > > > > > > Folks, > > > > My view on the namespace is that we should aim to have one and one > > only and not change it > > at all until the publication of the "final" version of the > > specification. Making changes for every > > CD makes no sense to me. The CD's are drafts and have no "official" > > status. > > > > Folks who are trying to "follow" the XSDs etc during the spec > > development process will simply > > have to put up with the changes, with no assistance from dates in the > > NS's. Only once there is > > something official available will there be a need to mark any future > > changes with a different NS. > > > > So, to cut to the chase how about the following as a namespace for > > assembly: > > > > > > http://docs.oasis-open.org/OpenCSA/SCA-Common/200803 > > > > > > > > ...we can vote to change to a later dated namespace once we get near > > final publication of OASIS SCA 1.0.... > > > > Yours, Mike. > > > > Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO. > > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC. > > IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great Britain. > > Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 > > Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com > > > > *Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>* > > > > 26/02/2008 02:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > Bryan Aupperle <aupperle@us.ibm.com> > > > > cc > > > > > > > > sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org > > > > Subject > > > > > > > > Re: [sca-assembly] Groups - sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc uploaded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. > > But before we do that we need to figure out a NS change policy: when > > would we change the namespace between two CDS? Would there be a change > > for every version, or would it change only when there is a backward > > incompatible change? Do we need to sync up the NS between various TCs? > > > > Putting such a policy in place would be helpful for early > > adopters/implementers. > > > > -Anish > > -- > > > > Bryan Aupperle wrote: > >> > >> I know this is a nit, but if we are going to consider WD 03 as a > >> potential CD, doesn't that mean that date for the namespace will be set > >> and therefore the declared namespace at the front of the document should > >> be filled in and not left as TBD? > >> > >> Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D. > >> STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect > >> Master Inventor > >> > >> Research Triangle Park, NC > >> +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508) > >> Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com > >> > >> > >> *Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com* > >> > >> 02/19/2008 12:50 AM > >> > >> > >> To > >> sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org > >> cc > >> > >> Subject > >> [sca-assembly] Groups - > > sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc uploaded > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The document revision named sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc has been > >> submitted by Dr. Anish Karmarkar to the OASIS Service Component > >> Architecture / Assembly (SCA-Assembly) TC document repository. This > >> document is revision #2 of sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc. > >> > >> Document Description: > >> WD-03 incorporates issues: 1A, 4, 9, 19, 21, 22 > >> + > >> - in Implementation and ComponentType section added attribute and > > element > >> description for service, reference, and property > >> - removed comments that helped understand the initial restructuring for > >> WD02 > >> - added changes for issue 43 > >> - added changes for issue 45, except the changes for policySet and > > requires > >> attribute on property elements > >> > >> View Document Details: > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- > assembly/document.php?document_id=27238 > >> > >> Download Document: > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- > assembly/download.php/27238/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc > >> > >> Revision: > >> This document is revision #2 of sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc. 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