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Subject: Re: [tab] Re: [opencsa-liaison] RE: Quick update on DCR


IMHO a pending status chafe means only changes allowed in 2.18(6), but agree that needs clarification. 

Martin.

On 16 Aug 2011, at 19:58, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> wrote:

> This is a scenario that TCA and TAB are discussing. Approval of
> replacing Beta CSD02 with Beta CS02 (for example) is not a problem
> because the presumption is that nothing is changing in Beta CSD02
> except its stage in the OASIS document hierarchy.
> 
> Moving from CSD01 to CSD02 on the other hand means that the content of
> Beta *has* changed. Our discussion is about whether or not a public
> review should therefore be required.
> 
> Under the present wording, the intent of the section is not crystal
> clear. The wording refers to "... a pending status change..." but the
> meaning of status change is not defined.
> 
> /chet
> 
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Patil, Sanjay <sanjay.patil@sap.com> wrote:
>> Pretty much except I would phrase the last step as:
>> Motion to update Alpha CSD01 (replace reference to Beta CSD01 with Beta CSD02) and approve it to become Alpha CS01
>> 
>> [Note that Beta CSD01 has progressed to Beta CSD02 in the previous step, hence there is no need of a DCR this time]
>> 
>> Sanjay
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chet Ensign [mailto:chet.ensign@oasis-open.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:38 AM
>> To: Patil, Sanjay
>> Cc: Martin Chapman; Mike Edwards; Anish Karmarkar; Simon Holdsworth; OASIS TAB; OASIS Liaison
>> Subject: Re: [opencsa-liaison] RE: Quick update on DCR
>> 
>> Sanjay, let me layout this out in a bit more detail to make sure we
>> fully understand the scenario:
>> 
>> 
>> TC Alpha                                        TC Beta
>> 
>> Alpha WD01     references->    Beta WD01
>> 
>> Alpha WD01  appv'd for CSD & PR w/ DCR motion to -> Beta WD01 becoming
>> Beta CSD01
>> 
>>                                                  Beta WD01 appv'd as
>> Beta CSD01
>> 
>> Alpha CSD01 is pub'd w/ reference to Beta CSD01
>> 
>>                                                   New round of work:
>> Beta WD02 appv'd as Beta CSD02
>> 
>> Alpha CSD01 appv'd for CS01 w/ DCR motion to Beta WD02 becoming Beta CSD02
>> 
>> If I understand correctly, you are asking if the TC could approve
>> CSD01 to become CS01 with a DCR motion to update the cross-reference
>> from Beta CSD01 to Beta CSD02. (And obviously not requiring that CSD01
>> be pushed up to CSD02 and put through another round of public review.)
>> 
>> Am I reading your request correctly?
>> 
>> Thx - /chet
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Patil, Sanjay <sanjay.patil@sap.com> wrote:
>>> Is the following scenario valid? Would that be supported?
>>> 
>>> Motion for  A wd to be csd/pr with a DCR to csd/pr X
>>> Content changes to X, leading to another round of csd/pr for X
>>> Time passes, no content changes to A
>>> Update A pr with new reference for X (without a second round of pr for A)
>>> Motion for updated A pr to cs
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sanjay
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Martin Chapman [mailto:MARTIN.CHAPMAN@ORACLE.COM]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:48 AM
>>> To: Patil, Sanjay; Chet Ensign; Mike Edwards; Anish Karmarkar; Simon Holdsworth; OASIS TAB; OASIS Liaison
>>> Subject: RE: [opencsa-liaison] RE: Quick update on DCR
>>> 
>>> Why not? A DCR can accompany a CS/CN motion. So the flow would be:
>>> 
>>> Motion for  A wd to be cd/pr with a DCR to cd/pr X
>>> <time passes, no content changes to A or X>
>>> Motion for A pr to cs with a DCR to X cs
>>> 
>>> Note that any direct transition cd->pr->cs/cn->cos->os is safe.
>>> 
>>>> One quick comment on the proposal - While extending the DCR process to PRs
>>>> might help, I think it still would not allow adjusting the references in
>>>> post PR versions even if a TC can approve of such a change as safe!
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Sanjay
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Chet Ensign [mailto:chet.ensign@oasis-open.org]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:16 AM
>>>> To: Patil, Sanjay; Mike Edwards; Anish Karmarkar; Simon Holdsworth; OASIS
>>>> TAB
>>>> Subject: Quick update on DCR
>>>> 
>>>> Anish, Mike, Sanjay, Simon -
>>>> 
>>>> Just a quick status update. TC Admin and the TAB are going to discuss
>>>> our proposal for modifying DCR handling at our regular meeting next
>>>> Friday, 8/26. Key thing from your perspective is that we are
>>>> discussing extending the ability to make motions for DCR's to
>>>> approvals of Committee Specification/Note Drafts and approvals for
>>>> Public Reviews. I want to hold off on a detailed response to your
>>>> questions until we have had our discussion in order to ensure that I
>>>> give you the correct information. (Simon, you had a specific question
>>>> that I will answer separately - it is already covered by the current
>>>> TC Process.)
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any pressing issues that need to be handled now, please
>>>> let me know and we can get on the phone and discuss how to handle
>>>> them. Otherwise, I will send you the detailed response after our
>>>> meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> /chet
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> /chet
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> 
> 
> 
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