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Subject: Re: [opencsa-ms] SCA/SDO Market Awareness Road-show

From: Graham Barber <graham_barber@uk.ibm.com>
To: Mark Little <mlittle@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:05:56 +0100

Mark

In terms of organizing a "clearing house" for these - my personal bias is always to use wiki technology. BUT, I do note that my enthusiasm was not shared in general by other team members during the OSOA incubation phase. In addtion, we do not have a wiki available to the Member Section as a whole, but we already have the kavi pages for holding documents: <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/documents.php>. Whilst OASIS staff would give us wiki pages, I hesitate in starting up yet another technology for essentially internal tracking, unless convinced it will be exceptionally well used by all of us. I fear that "yet another thing to learn" will inhibit its progress.

Thus, with some releuctance, I'd propose a simpler answer using existing mechanisms:

- Use a new section on our document list <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/documents.php> entitled something like "Presentations Offered". (We currently have "2007 steering committee candidates" and "draft charters" which are redundant & removable, and "Meeting Notes" and "SC Documents" which are in use.
- Use our actions items list <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/members/action_items.php> to record incoming requests. Essentially they are action items (maybe belonging to you, until presenters are committed).

Thoughts?

Graham J Barber,

Program Director, SOA Partnerships,
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Mark Little <mlittle@redhat.com>

06/08/2007 11:39

To	Graham Barber/UK/IBM@IBMGB
cc	opencsa-ms@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject	Re: [opencsa-ms] SCA/SDO Market Awareness Road-show

We should maintain a list then and later decide what can and cannot be reused. Maybe some of the demos could be hosted remotely? I'm not sure whether OASIS is set up to do that though.

Mark.

On 6 Aug 2007, at 11:37, Graham Barber wrote:

To a certain extent, yes; the presentation material would be. I know that Doug plans some SCA demos also, which would be more difficult, but not impossible, to store & reuse.

Graham J Barber,

Program Director, SOA Partnerships,
Graham_Barber@uk.ibm.com
Graham Barber@IBMGB
Phone:
Internal: 245702, External: +44 (0)1962 815702
Secretary (Yulia): 247672, +44 (0)1962 817672
Cellphone (Worldwide): +44 (0)7880 734005

Mark Little <mlittle@redhat.com>

06/08/2007 11:29

To	Graham Barber/UK/IBM@IBMGB
cc	<opencsa-ms@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	Re: [opencsa-ms] SCA/SDO Market Awareness Road-show

Would these market-awareness introductions be useful for the "presentation database" I mentioned? It seems like they would, but I want to check.

Mark.

On 3 Aug 2007, at 18:24, Graham Barber wrote:

Dear Steering Committee,

IBM is planning a set of half-day seminars through the remainder of 2008 to present and promote SCA/SDO technology from a vendor-neutral viewpoint in order to raise market awareness of these technologies. We are not promoting IBM products as part of this initiative, although we will use Tuscany as it's one of the few SCA runtime offerings available today. The initiative comes from Karla Norsworthy's Standards organization, not WebSphere's marketing organization, so I emphasize: it is vendor-neutral. The seminars will be presented by Doug Tidwell, who also spoke about SCA at JavaOne this year.

The first 3 seminars will be in China at the end of this month. Doug intends to continue in Europe & the USA in ~ October to December. Current details are at: <http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/offers/techbriefings/details/scasdo.html>.

We are interested in making the Europe/USA seminars either multi-vendor, or even OASIS Open CSA supported, if the interest exists. We're happy to explore any option in line with objectives of promoting the technologies, not vendor products. With greater multi-vendor support, we could expand this initiative and reach even more developers. Another benefit may be to encourage more real end-users to join the TCs that will commence in September.

If there is no interest, then so be it; IBM will continue a more limited program. If there is interest in doing this as a multi-vendor, or an Open CSA backed program, please let me know and we can commence some planning, or initiate an adoption sub-committee; whatever is practical in line with OASIS guidelines.....

Graham J Barber,

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Graham_Barber@uk.ibm.com
Graham Barber@IBMGB
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