RE: [opencsa-ms] Potential Sessions for Java One for SCA, SDO

[Graham Barber <graham_barber@uk.ibm.com>]

Another option could be for the SCA
vendor suppliers & JBI vendor suppliers to each do their own thing
(as per Jeff), but in addition: recommend to a company such as TIBCO to
do a session which clearly demonstrates the value of both for their different
reasons.

One danger with this approach, though,
is that such a presentation must exemplify the value of EACH. Their is
a danger in any implication that you must have both for a complete SOA
solution. That message would benefit neither JBI nor SCA.

Graham J Barber,

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"Patil, Sanjay" <sanjay.patil@sap.com>

07/11/2007 04:15

To	"Jeff Mischkinsky" <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com>, "Jones, Steve G" <steve.g.jones@capgemini.com>
cc	"Mark Little" <mlittle@redhat.com>, Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB, "OpenCSA " <opencsa-ms@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [opencsa-ms] Potential Sessions for Java One for SCA, SDO

+1 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Mischkinsky [mailto:jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, Nov 06, 2007 19:54 PM
> To: Jones, Steve G
> Cc: Mark Little; Mike Edwards; OpenCSA 
> Subject: Re: [opencsa-ms] Potential Sessions for Java One for SCA,
SDO
> 
> 
> On Nov 05, 2007, at 4:40 AM, Jones, Steve G wrote:
> 
> > Jumping in here with two feet fully booted.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is almost certainly going to be a JBI session as 
> well, so why  
> > don't we propose that in addition to an SCA specific one 
> there is a  
> > JBI/SCA joint one.  Politically it would be the most interesting.
> Possibly, if one is looking to create controversy. Personally I'd
 
> prefer to highlight the value of SCA. I don't see it as competing
 
> with JBI - they address very different problem spaces. I think this
 
> group, after all we are the OpenCSA member section, should stay  
> focused on SCA (and SDO). Let the companies/people who are 
> focused on  
> JBI do their JBI thing.
> 
>   -jeff
> 
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mark Little [mailto:mlittle@redhat.com]
> > Sent: 05 November 2007 10:44
> > To: Mike Edwards
> > Cc: OpenCSA
> > Subject: Re: [opencsa-ms] Potential Sessions for Java One 
> for SCA, SDO
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike, do you see your session proposal as separate to the 
> AI I took  
> > on Friday? I think two panel sessions around SCA might be pushing
 
> > it for JavaOne, so I'm happy to push my AI to you ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5 Nov 2007, at 09:55, Mike Edwards wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > Here are my initial suggestions for some Open CSA related sessions
 
> > at Java One next year
> >  - remember we have to get submissions in by Nov 16th !
> >
> >
> > Panel Session:
> >
> > 1a) Building Enterprise Applications using SOA with SCA
> >
> > - a discussion with panellists from the major contributors to
the  
> > SCA specifications in OASIS
> >
> >
> > Main Tent sessions:
> >
> >
> > 2a) SCA: flexible and agile composition of distributed service-
> > oriented applications
> >
> > - A general session about SCA and the composition of applications
> >
> >
> > 2b) Using Enterprise Infrastructure simply: Security and  
> > Transactions the SCA way
> >
> > - A session about security and transactions.  Ideally with
a few  
> > working examples.
> >
> >
> > 2c) Web 2.0 and SOA: AJAX front-ends linked to services built
with  
> > Service Component Architecture
> >
> > - A more practical session showing AJAX front ends linked to
 
> > services on the server built using SCA.
> >
> >
> > 2d) Web services the simple way: worked example of a Web services
 
> > application using SCA
> >
> > - A more practical session showing the building a Web services
 
> > application using SCA, with
> > the application both providing a Web service and also using Web
 
> > services
> >
> >
> > 2e) Handling data in Service-Oriented applications: Service Data
 
> > Objects
> >
> > - A discussion of SDO in general
> >
> >
> > 2f) Building Business Processes: BPEL and SCA - the simple 
> approach  
> > to sequence and structure.
> >
> > - A discussion of the happy combination of SCA and BPEL in 
> building  
> > business solutions - with
> > a worked example.
> >
> >
> > BOFs:
> >
> > 3a) Service Component Architecture - building composite applications
> >
> > 3b) SCA Security, Transactions and Reliable Messaging
> >
> > 3c) Communicating using SCA: Bindings for Web Services, JMS and
JCA
> >
> > 3d) SCA and Spring - using Spring as part of larger distributed
 
> > composite applications
> >
> >
> >
> > Yours,  Mike.
> >
> > Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
> > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
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