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Subject: RE: [opencsa-sc] Confirm name and settings for LSC


Done.  See http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-liaison/ 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Mischkinsky [mailto:jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:03 PM
>To: Scott McGrath
>Cc: Graham Barber; OpenCSA
>Subject: Re: [opencsa-sc] Confirm name and settings for LSC
>
>hi scott,
>   (moving to the MS list)
>
>   i'm not quite sure of all of the implications of what you are
>proposing, but the charter is quite clear:
>"LSC meetings, (teleconference and/or face to face) shall be posted
>in advance. The meetings shall be open to other OpenCSA MS and
>affiliated TC members as observers. Observers may participate in
>meetings at the discretion of the chair. Any eligible OASIS member
>may subscribe to the LSC mail list and post to it."
>   cheers,
>   jeff
>
>On Nov 06, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Scott McGrath wrote:
>
>> Graham,
>>
>>
>>
>> See some replies inline
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Graham Barber [mailto:graham_barber@uk.ibm.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:10 PM
>> To: Scott McGrath
>> Cc: opencsa-sc@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [opencsa-sc] Confirm name and settings for LSC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> A couple of questions:
>>
>> - On the Groups Page, I think I interpret that subcommittees are
>> indented under the main committee that they "serve".
>>
>> [Scott said:]
>>
>> Under normal circumstances, that is true.  But this is not a
>> "normal" subcommittee in that we would not enforce our subcommittee
>> rules (to be a member on a SC, you must be a member of the parent
>> committee)  Therefore, this subcommittee wouldn't be represented in
>> the usual parent/child relationship of indented under the parent.
>>
>>  If I have this right, this group will be under the Steering
>> Committee Group, yes? If so, then leaving "OpenCSA" in the name may
>> be redundant. As we've lost the more important "SCA", may I suggest
>> "SCA Liaison SubCommittee" as an alternative? That may change the
>> long name as well, of course.
>>
>> [Scott said:]
>>
>> I was focusing on OpenCSA and avoiding  SCA to help make it clear
>> that it is a subcommittee of the Member Section, not one of the SCA
>> TCs.
>>
>> - Will it be possible to join as an Observer? That was my personal
>> intention, for example.
>>
>> [Scott said:]
>>
>> Hmmm, didn't consider that, either on a policy level or
>> operationally.  I'll let you folks deal with the policy issue, but
>> I would observe that if I expose the "Join this group" link, it
>> will invoke all the TC related "join management/Primary Approval"
>> tools, webpages, email templates that make perfect sense when
>> joining a TC-and no sense when joining this special group.  If you
>> folks agree having Observers is culturally correct (and I can bet
>> on that outcome) I think the best process to allow that is to
>> modify the page message to read:
>>
>> "If you are interested in Observing this subcommittee joining this
>> subcommittee to represent your SCA
>> TC, please notify the Steering Committee at opencsa-sc@lists.oasis-
>> open.org"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Graham J Barber,
>>
>> OASIS OpenCSA Steering Committee Secretary & Vice-Chair,
>> Program Director, SOA Partnerships, IBM Corporation.
>>      Graham_Barber@uk.ibm.com
>> Phone:
>> Internal:                              245702,  External: +44 (0)
>> 1962 815702
>> Secretary (Carol):          245395,                    +44 (0)1962
>> 815395
>> Cellphone (Worldwide):                                    +44 (0)
>> 7880 734005
>>
>>
>> "Scott McGrath" <scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>
>>
>> 06/11/2007 15:52
>>
>> To
>>
>> <opencsa-sc@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>
>> cc
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>>
>>
>> Subject
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>> [opencsa-sc] Confirm name and settings for LSC
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>>
>> Gents,
>>
>> In creating the infrastructure for the OpenCSA Inter-SCA TC Liaison
>> SubCommittee, allow me to confirm a few details.
>>
>> The group name and mail list name has practical size limitations
>> because of
>> display issues.  Therefore, I suggest:
>>
>> Group Name (as displayed on the group pages) OpenCSA Liaison
>> SubCommittee
>> Mail list name: opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org
>> The charter and supporting page text will of course reference the
>> full name.
>>
>> All group settings will be configured to give the visibility you seek.
>>
>> The "Join this Group" button will be hidden. OASIS members who are not
>> already on the roster will see a note that says something like:
>> "If you are interested in joining this sub-committee to represent
>> your SCA
>> TC, please notify the Steering Committee at opencsa-sc@lists.oasis-
>> open.org"
>> With your guidance we can add members to the roster.
>>
>> Let me know if I've missed something.  If we can put closure to
>> this today,
>> I can have the pages available by Wednesday, as requested.
>>
>> Scott...
>>
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