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Subject: Re: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) ProposedAgenda - 10 April 2009]



Jeff,

I have no objection to canceling Friday's meeting.

Mike
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
Phone: 919-254-7605  T/L 444-7605



From: Jeff Mischkinsky <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com>
To: OpenCSA <opencsa-ms@lists.oasis-open.org>
Date: 04/08/2009 11:57 AM
Subject: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 10 April 2009]





hi,
  We've now got 3 out of 7 regrets for friday's meetings. What's this  
about holidays on a Friday anyway? ;-)

  I was wondering if we should just cancel as there are no pressing  
decisions to be made that i know of.

  You can see regular updates on schedules by reading the LSC meeting  
minutes, which are on the opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org list.

 what say you all?
    cheers,
   jeff
On Apr 07, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Mike Kaiser wrote:

>
>
>
> PROPOSED AGENDA - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda -  
> 10 April 2009 9:00 AM PST
>
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>
>
>
> 0. Agenda bashing and Roll
>
> 1. Minutes Approval
>
>         - 13 March 2009:        
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/download.php/31656/Open_CSA_SC_20090313_Draft.txt
>
> 2. Open Action Item Review and Discussion
>         AI20081212-001 - Coordinate an effort with Assembly TC to  
> produce an
>                 SCA primer as the specs approach standardization (in  
> review).
>
>                 STATUS: On Hold until we get closer to  
> standardization.
>
>
>         AI20090313-001 Jeff to send the following recommendation to
>                 the TC's.
>
>                 Recommendation:
>                 Steering Committee Recommends inclusion of the
>                 completed test suite with the main package for
>                 the initial CS vote.
>
>                 STATUS:
>
>
>         AI20090313-002 - Jeff to talk with mary to make
>                 the request to group SCA PR announcements.
>
>                 STATUS: COMPLETE - Should now be closed.
>                 Jeff send the following e-mail to Mary on March 13,  
> 2009.
>                
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/email/archives/200903/msg00005.html
>                 Subsequent communications with Mary were done
>                 to inform her that Assembly and Policy specs should go
>                 first.  Any others that are ready at the same time  
> should
>                 also go, but Assembly nor Policy should be held up  
> waiting
>                 for another TC.
>
> 3. Overall TC Milestones Status as discussed by LSC:
>         Tentative dates for key milestones:
>
>         On Feb 5, 2009 conf-call [A], the LSC discussed the  
> following as the
>         new anticipated schedule for the OpenCSA TCs:
>
>            End Feb – Assembly and Policy TC to start 1st Public  
> Review (60 day)
>            Mid March – Other TCs to start 1st Public Review (60 day)
>            End June – Finish all the work
>            End July – Submit specs to OASIS for OS vote
>
>         ASSEMBLY ONLY (now about a month behind schedule on testing  
> work
>                        resulting in the following [B])
>            End Feb Test Assertion complete
>            End March Test Case complete
>            Mid April for Assembly TC only
>            End June - 1st Public Review complete
>
>         Recommendation that all other TC's set a similar schedule for
>         for about one month later.
>
>         [A]
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200902/msg00003.html
>         [B]
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200901/msg00013.html
>
>         For each TC:
>                 What is status of PR for each of the following?:
>                 When is/was the anticipated vote for CD for Public  
> Review?
>                 When is the Public Review scheduled to start?
>
>                 What is the status of Test Assertions?
>                 What is the status of Test Cases?
>                 When are these scheduled for vote for Public Review?
>                 When is the Public Review for Test Cases and  
> Assertions scheduled to start?
>
>
>         SCA-Assembly TC:
>         SCA-Policy TC:
>         SCA-Bindings TC:
>         SCA-BPEL TC:
>         SCA-C and C++ TC:
>         SCA-Java TC:
>         SDO TC:
>
>
> 4. Compliant implementation plans
>         We know that we need something about mid year.  There are
>         several companies working this but implementation timing is
>         unknown.  Open Source (Apache Tuscany, looks to be one
>         source for at least some of the TC's.  Fabric3 may be  
> another).
>         Each TC will have to make it's own decision on what compliant
>         implementations they are going to use based on what's  
> available
>         in the         timeframe of standardization and what their  
> test plan
>         looks like.
>
>         The SC must eventually resolve the question of "how it will
>         make approval decisions" and communicate this to the TC's.
>         It is expected that the Testing Plans for each TC will
>         incorporate implementation/testing aspects which encompass
>         the broader "SCA" picture.
>
>         We must address the following core questions:
>           Are we all in agreement that the exit criteria in each
>           charter applies to Member Submission for vote and not
>           for Committee Specification approval?
>
>           At this stage, what (if any) compliant applications
>           are the likely candidates which the SC will likely
>           generally accept?
>
>         If there are no updates, then continue to hold on agenda for
>         discussion at the next meeting.
>
> 5. Any Other Business?
>
> 6. Future SC Agenda Topics?
>
> 7. Next Meeting
>            - The next regular teleconference is scheduled for May  
> 8th, 2009
>                 9:00am PST, 12:00pm EST, 5:00pm UK
>
>         (OpenCSA Steering Committee calls are scheduled for the  
> second Friday
>                 of each month.)
>
> 8. Adjourn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
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