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Subject: Re: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 10 April 2009]


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On 8 Apr 2009, at 17:04, Patil, Sanjay wrote:

>
>>  what say you all?
> Aye Aye Captain :-)
>
> Cancelling this Friday's call is fine by me.
>
> -- Sanjay
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Mischkinsky [mailto:jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, Apr 08, 2009 8:57 AM
>> To: OpenCSA
>> Subject: [opencsa-ms] Cancel? [was Proposed - OpenCSA
>> Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda - 10 April 2009]
>>
>> hi,
>>   We've now got 3 out of 7 regrets for friday's meetings.
>> What's this
>> about holidays on a Friday anyway? ;-)
>>
>>   I was wondering if we should just cancel as there are no pressing
>> decisions to be made that i know of.
>>
>>   You can see regular updates on schedules by reading the
>> LSC meeting
>> minutes, which are on the opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org list.
>>
>>  what say you all?
>>     cheers,
>>    jeff
>> On Apr 07, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Mike Kaiser wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PROPOSED AGENDA - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed
>> Agenda -
>>> 10 April 2009 9:00 AM PST
>>>
>>> Call-In Information:
>>>
>>>        Participant passcode 370491
>>>
>>>        North America Toll free 1-888-240-4148
>>>        Toll/International +1-719-234-0214
>>>        London, UK, Local +44 (0) 20 7663 2217
>>>        UK toll free 0 800 051 6872
>>>
>>>        *6 mute/un-mute, *0 operator, *1 help
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 0. Agenda bashing and Roll
>>>
>>> 1. Minutes Approval
>>>
>>>        - 13 March 2009:
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/downlo
>> ad.php/31656/Open_CSA_SC_20090313_Draft.txt
>>>
>>> 2. Open Action Item Review and Discussion
>>>        AI20081212-001 - Coordinate an effort with Assembly TC to
>>> produce an
>>>                SCA primer as the specs approach
>> standardization (in
>>> review).
>>>
>>>                STATUS: On Hold until we get closer to
>>> standardization.
>>>
>>>
>>>        AI20090313-001 Jeff to send the following recommendation to
>>>                the TC's.
>>>
>>>                Recommendation:
>>>                Steering Committee Recommends inclusion of the
>>>                completed test suite with the main package for
>>>                the initial CS vote.
>>>
>>>                STATUS:
>>>
>>>
>>>        AI20090313-002 - Jeff to talk with mary to make
>>>                the request to group SCA PR announcements.
>>>
>>>                STATUS: COMPLETE - Should now be closed.
>>>                Jeff send the following e-mail to Mary on
>> March 13,
>>> 2009.
>>>
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/email/
>> archives/200903/msg00005.html
>>>                Subsequent communications with Mary were done
>>>                to inform her that Assembly and Policy
>> specs should go
>>>                first.  Any others that are ready at the same time
>>> should
>>>                also go, but Assembly nor Policy should be held up
>>> waiting
>>>                for another TC.
>>>
>>> 3. Overall TC Milestones Status as discussed by LSC:
>>>        Tentative dates for key milestones:
>>>
>>>        On Feb 5, 2009 conf-call [A], the LSC discussed the
>>> following as the
>>>        new anticipated schedule for the OpenCSA TCs:
>>>
>>>           End Feb - Assembly and Policy TC to start 1st Public
>>> Review (60 day)
>>>           Mid March - Other TCs to start 1st Public Review (60 day)
>>>           End June - Finish all the work
>>>           End July - Submit specs to OASIS for OS vote
>>>
>>>        ASSEMBLY ONLY (now about a month behind schedule on
>> testing
>>> work
>>>                       resulting in the following [B])
>>>           End Feb Test Assertion complete
>>>           End March Test Case complete
>>>           Mid April for Assembly TC only
>>>           End June - 1st Public Review complete
>>>
>>>        Recommendation that all other TC's set a similar
>> schedule for
>>>        for about one month later.
>>>
>>>        [A]
>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200902/ms
>> g00003.html
>>>        [B]
>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200901/ms
>> g00013.html
>>>
>>>        For each TC:
>>>                What is status of PR for each of the following?:
>>>                When is/was the anticipated vote for CD for Public
>>> Review?
>>>                When is the Public Review scheduled to start?
>>>
>>>                What is the status of Test Assertions?
>>>                What is the status of Test Cases?
>>>                When are these scheduled for vote for Public Review?
>>>                When is the Public Review for Test Cases and
>>> Assertions scheduled to start?
>>>
>>>
>>>        SCA-Assembly TC:
>>>        SCA-Policy TC:
>>>        SCA-Bindings TC:
>>>        SCA-BPEL TC:
>>>        SCA-C and C++ TC:
>>>        SCA-Java TC:
>>>        SDO TC:
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Compliant implementation plans
>>>        We know that we need something about mid year.  There are
>>>        several companies working this but implementation timing is
>>>        unknown.  Open Source (Apache Tuscany, looks to be one
>>>        source for at least some of the TC's.  Fabric3 may be
>>> another).
>>>        Each TC will have to make it's own decision on what
>> compliant
>>>        implementations they are going to use based on what's
>>> available
>>>        in the         timeframe of standardization and what their
>>> test plan
>>>        looks like.
>>>
>>>        The SC must eventually resolve the question of "how it will
>>>        make approval decisions" and communicate this to the TC's.
>>>        It is expected that the Testing Plans for each TC will
>>>        incorporate implementation/testing aspects which encompass
>>>        the broader "SCA" picture.
>>>
>>>        We must address the following core questions:
>>>          Are we all in agreement that the exit criteria in each
>>>          charter applies to Member Submission for vote and not
>>>          for Committee Specification approval?
>>>
>>>          At this stage, what (if any) compliant applications
>>>          are the likely candidates which the SC will likely
>>>          generally accept?
>>>
>>>        If there are no updates, then continue to hold on agenda for
>>>        discussion at the next meeting.
>>>
>>> 5. Any Other Business?
>>>
>>> 6. Future SC Agenda Topics?
>>>
>>> 7. Next Meeting
>>>           - The next regular teleconference is scheduled for May
>>> 8th, 2009
>>>                9:00am PST, 12:00pm EST, 5:00pm UK
>>>
>>>        (OpenCSA Steering Committee calls are scheduled for the
>>> second Friday
>>>                of each month.)
>>>
>>> 8. Adjourn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Mischkinsky			          		
>> jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com
>> Director, Oracle Fusion Middleware 				
>> +1(650)506-1975
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>>
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