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Subject: [opencsa-ms] Draft Minutes for OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Meeting - 15 January 2010
PROPOSED AGENDA - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Proposed Agenda -
15 January 2010 9:00 AM PST
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Chat Room Activity: none
NEW ACTION ITEMS:
None
0. Agenda bashing and Roll
Attending: Voting Members (X = Attended)
X David Burke
X Bob Freund
Anil Gurnani
X Mike Kaiser (Vice-Chair)
X Jeff Mischkinsky (Chair)
X Sanjay Patil
Apologies:
Mark Little
Identified Observers:
Ashok Malhotra (SCA-BPEL)
NOTES: David Burke
(next up for notes: Bob Freund)
0.1 Secretarial Role Selection (rotating):
This includes:
Creation/posting of the agenda
Creation/posting of meeting minutes
Coordination of meeting. (reminders, scheduling,
balloting support) etc...
Tracking collecting/tracking SCA TC status.
Action item tracking...
NOTES: SC agreed to the following practice going
forward:
Chair - meeting coordination (agenda management)
Rotating Secretary (by last name alphabetically)
- Meeting minutes and notes
Co-chair LSC - tracking/collecting SCA TC status (sanjay)
A/I tracking - Mike agreed to track action items
1. Minutes Approval
- 11 November 2009:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/download.php/355
57/Open_CSA_SC_20091113_Draft.txt
NOTES: Motion to approve made and seconded.
APPROVED without objection unanimously.
2. Open Action Item Review and Discussion
AI20081212-001 - Coordinate an effort with Assembly TC to
produce an SCA primer as the specs approach standardization (in
review).
NOTES: On Hold until we get closer to standardization.
Keep on hold.
We may now be close enought to start talking
about this.
KEEP ON AGENDA
AI20090911-001-
- Sanjay to provide an initial skeleton draft for a statement
describing what a non-SCA OASIS solution would need to
achieve.
This portion has been done and is currently in
discussion within the SCA-Assembly TC.
- Bob will need to insert IPR terms and review
This still needs to be done.
NOTES: ASSEMBLY closed the issue,
Agreement for the SC to mark it as closed.
AI20091113-001 - Agenda discussion of AI20081212-001- SCA Primer
at the December 11th Steering Committee
Meeting.
NOTES: DONE See below.
AI20091113-002 - Agenda review of Operational Procedures
document.
Steering committee members need to review the
current one and document any proposed changes.
NOTES: DONE See below.
AI20091113-003 - Agenda discussion about TMF request.
NOTES: DONE. See below.
AI20091113-004 - Need to update OASIS calendar with 2010
meetings.
NOTES: David provided new conference call information
to
The SC in a follow up note post
meeting.
3. Operational Procedures document.
We must review and approve every 6 months. The latest review is
now long overdue.
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-ms/download.php/290
89/Open_CSA_SC_Operational_Procedures_V1.1%20%20Final.doc
NOTES: document was collectively reviewed and
updated online in the meeting, Work plan to be
added to next
agenda for review -
Jeff to send out a draft ahead of time
4. Overall TC Milestones Status as discussed by LSC:
The following represents the current state of each TC relative
to Public Reviews
* = PR 04/24 - 06/23
& = PR 06/08 - 08/07
? = PR 08/08 - 10/07
- = Schedule not available at this time. (lower priority)
SCA-Assembly TC Specifications (V1.1)
* SCA Assembly Model Specification
SCA-Policy TC Specifications (V1.1)
* SCA Policy Framework
SCA-BPEL TC Specifications (V1.1)
* SCA WS-BPEL Client and Implementation Specification
SCA-C/C++ TC Specifications (V1.1)
* SCA Client and Implementation Model Specification
for C
* SCA Client and Implementation Model Specification
for C++
SCA-J TC Specifications (V1.1)
& SCA Java Common Annotations and APIs Specification
& SCA Java Component Implementation Specification
- SCA EJB Session Bean Binding Specification
- SCA Spring Component Implementation Specification
- SCA JEE Integration Specification
SCA-Bindings TC Specifications (V1.1)
? SCA Web Services Binding Specification
? SCA JMS Binding Specification
? SCA JCA Binding Specification
- SCA HTTP Binding Specification
SDO TC Specifications (V3.0)
- Service Data Objects Specification
- Service Data Objects for Java
Where are we on the Test Suite progress for each?
(i.e. Test Cases, Test Assertions) For each
- When is TC final review scheduled?
- When is vote for PR scheduled?
- When is Submission to TC Admin for PR scheduled?
- When is PR targeted?
Public Review dates for Test Suites (Assertions/Test Cases)
08/18 - 10/17 SCA-Assembly
??/?? - ??/?? SCA-Policy
??/?? - ??/?? SCA-Bindings
??/?? - ??/?? SCA-BPEL
??/?? - ??/?? SCA-C/C++
??/?? - ??/?? SCA-J
??/?? - ??/?? SDO
Where do we stand on the Spring Binding spec?
Did EJB binding spec get update of RDL files from Assembly
team?
What is prognosis for Spring Binding spec, are all the issues
now resolved?
SCA-Assembly Test Suite Public review is now complete. Waiting
on final resolution to remaining spec issues for test
suite action. What is next milestone target for spec?
Java CAA test suites: Last month, Public Review seemed to be
imminent. Haven't seen the Public Review issued yet. What's
the hold up?
NOTES: update from Ashok for Policy:
1 remaining issue to close on 01/18 and
01/25 have committee spec to vote on.
Then about 4 weeks to work on test assertions and test
cases (test suite). Finish by 02/22.
Submit to OASIS by first week of March.
Planned for 60 day PR of test cases. Things are going
well
(see also email update from Dave Booz below)
WRT Assembly: started on 1.2 (eventing)
NOTES: updates from LOC status update emails:
1. Sanjay Patil:
Update from SCA BPEL TC:
1st PR is already done. Currently there are 3 open
issues. Remaining main work area is - creation
of test cases.
Here is the current plan:
Jan 21 - Revised specification draft
Feb 4 - Update Test Assertion Document
Mar 4 - Test Case Creation
Mar 25 - Review and finalization of Test Cases
Apr 1 - Go for 2nd PR
2. Bryan Aupperle:
C++ and C C&I Specs
1/14 - resolve the last open issues (two due to recent
assembly changes and one addressing code artifact
precedence)
1/21 - vote to approve/accept the final v1.1 CD (cd04),
vote
to start final public review (assume 15 days)
3/4 - completed test assertions documents and testcases,
vote
to accept as CDs and start public review (60 days - this
is
first PR for java test suite pieces)
This could easily be sooner. The test assertions are
complete and there are only a few test cases left to
write,
but would like a pattern set by the Java TC for a couple
of
them
Based on the experience of our first PR and the PR of
the
Assembly test suite, I would not expect any significant
time
after the PR to address any issues.
Core and Java SDO specs. (I have not verified this with
the
TC Chairs)
2/21 - Approve CD02 and submit for 1st PR.
Test suite not started
C++ SDO spec (again I have not verified with the TC
Chairs)
This is on a much slower pace and will be several months
at
least before a potential PR.
3. Martin Chapman:
SCA Assembly...
Spec:
14 Jan - 2nd Public review sent to TC-Admin
15-Feb end 2nd Public
Review 1st March Freeze spec.
Test Cases Assertions:
15 Feb: 2nd public review of test assertions/test cases
sent
to TC Admin
15 March: end 2nd Public review
30 March Freeze Test assertions/test cases
4. David Booz:
Policy spec:
1/18 - Resolve the last open issue
1/25 - vote to approve/accept the final v1.1 CD (cd03),
vote to start final public review (assume 15 days)
2/22 - completed test assertions document and testcases,
vote
to accept as CDs and start public review (60 days - this
is
first PR for policy test suite pieces) All policy
documents
for SCA v1.1 should be ready, through PR and issues
handled
by end of May (likely before)
Java CAA spec, Java POJO spec, EJB Binding spec
(TC decided to advance them as a group)
1/18 - Resolve the last open Java CAA issue
1/25 - vote to approve/accept the final v1.1 CD (cd04,
cd02),
vote to start final public review (assume 15 days)
3/1 - completed test assertions documents and testcases,
vote
to accept as CDs and start public review (60 days - this
is
first PR for java test suite pieces)
For all of the above, I assume we will move quickly to
CS as
soon as PRs are done, whenever that might be.
JEE, Spring specs (TC decided to advance them as a
group)
6/15 - final SCA V1.1 CDs complete and ready for first
PR
(60 days)
8/15 - CDs for test assertions and testcases
5. Response to Microsoft and Siemens SCA-Assembly Public Review
comments.
Microsoft and Siemens (and other internal SCA members) have
raised the question around which of the two following paths
should be taken for claiming SCA Compliance (i.e. A or B).
A) SCA Compliant extensions must be compliant with all of the
following:
a) SCA Assembly,
b) SCA Policy,
c) SCA Binding, and
d) at least one of the SCA Implementation Types
(currently Java, BPEL, C or C++ )
B) SCA Compliant extensions must be compliant with all of the
following:
a) SCA Assembly,
b) SCA Policy and
c) SCA Binding
At F2F meeting last week (week of Nov 30) SCA-Assembly TC
Closed Microsoft and Siemens issue with no action.
There is a good amount of discussion in the assembly mailing
List around this topic. Steering Committee needs to
keep a pulse on this. Any further discussion?
[jm] The Assembly TC, after lots of discussion/debate, decided to
close with no action, and make no changes wrt SCA 1.1. My sense is
that it is likely this topic will re-surface in the 1.2 time frame.
NOTES: closed with N/A - will likely resurface
6. Compliant implementation plans
Tuscany updates?
Do we have an update on Fabric3 status?
NOTES: no update - table for next meeting
7. Discussion of SCA Primer.
Is it time yet to begin working on an SCA Primer?
NOTES: table for next meeting
8. We recently received a TMF request. What, if anything, do we want to
do about this? (See Action Item AI20091113)
NOTES: table for next
9. Any Other Business?
- We will be using a new call-in number again for the February
Steering Committee meeting.
- Calendaring for future 2010 meetings will be created.
NOTES: in progress
10. Future SC Agenda Topics?
NOTES: no submissions
11. Next Meeting
- The next regular teleconference will be held on February
12, 2010
NOTES: change to Feb 19, 2010
(OpenCSA Steering Committee calls are scheduled for the
second Friday
of each month.)
12. Adjourn
NOTES: adjourned
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