RE: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MSOffice 2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong?

["Cody, John (OFT)" <John.Cody@cio.ny.gov>]

Dennis:

Thank you for your generous offer to inspect the document itself.  Jan Wildeboer made me the same offer.  Unfortunately it is a draft document that can't be shared with the public yet.  I think what I will do is, once it is shared with the public, I will ask the public for any suggestions on how the document might have been better constructed in OO.org.

Yes, I saved it as a 1.1 document.

I haven't tried opening it in OO.org 2.4.  I no longer have OO.org 2.4 at my workstation but I may try that elsewhere.

Thanks for the pointer to the ODF Interoperability and Conformance TC oic-comment list.  Once the document is sharable I will try to remember to submit a copy there.

Thanks, JC

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John C. Cody, Associate Counsel 
Office of the NYS Chief Information Officer/NYS Office for Technology 
http://www.cio.ny.gov 
[The statements expressed herein are my own and do not necessarily reflect the policies, practices or opinions of my employer or anyone else.  Nothing herein constitutes legal advice - if you need legal advice, please consult your own attorney.]


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 5:14 PM
To: Cody, John (OFT); opendocument-users@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MS Office 2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong?

John, there is a setting in OpenOFfice.org for saving all documents in ODF 1.1/1.0 format instead of whatever the OO.o 3.1 implementers mean by ODF 1.2.  

Have you tried saving your document that way to see whether that is any better for interchange with Office 2007 SP2? 

Have you tried reading the document into OpenOffice.org 2.4 or any other ODF 1.1-based implementation?

I am happy to look at the document file and see if there is anything in its use of ODF that is somehow not covered under ODF 1.1 or is excluded in some way in the ODF Implementation Notes for Office 2007 SP2.  (This might be useful to submit to the ODF Interoperability and Conformance TC oic-comment list as well.)

 - Dennis

Dennis E. Hamilton
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cody, John (OFT) [mailto:John.Cody@cio.ny.gov]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:41
To: opendocument-users@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MS Office
2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong?

I have created a very simple text document in OpenOffice.org 3.1.  It has text, columns, graphics boxes, and images (real images, not links), and that's all.  The images and graphics boxes are anchored to their pages.
This was my first time using version 3.1.  The OpenOffice program was easy to use, did everything I needed it to, and worked very well.  I saved the document as an ODF text document (.odt).

I tried opening the document in Microsoft Word 2007 w/SP 2.  (Some of the people with whom I will share this document still use that program).  Many images are completely missing.  Most of the graphics boxes are missing.  The spacing and formatting is all shot to heck.

Microsoft apparently went to great lengths to ensure its implementation of ODF would correctly interpret ODF documents created in different software programs.  It tested hundreds of thousands of documents to ensure compatability.  See:
http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2009/06/14/testing-office-s-odf-implem
entation.aspx

But my first test word-processing document went horribly awry, and it is a very simple document.

What went wrong?  Is there anything I should be doing in particular when I draft documents in OO.org 3.1 that will help the document be interpreted better by MS Office 2007 SP2?

I realize these are application-specific questions.  But this is a list for users of the Open Document Format, and OO.org is for all practical purposes the reference implementation of ODF, so it seemed appropriate to ask that question here.

Thank you for any suggestions, John C.

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John C. Cody, Associate Counsel
Office of the NYS Chief Information Officer/NYS Office for Technology http://www.cio.ny.gov<http://www.oft.state.ny.us>
[The statements expressed herein are my own and do not necessarily reflect the policies, practices or opinions of my employer or anyone else.  Nothing herein constitutes legal advice - if you need legal advice, please consult your own attorney.]



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