Subject: RE: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MS Office 2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong?
Hi Jan, I'm not aware of any new issues in our implementation that came up in the plugfest, but if any issues are posted to the plugfest wiki going forward, we'll certainly look into them and prioritize any necessary work through our usual processes. As an example of how we're handling such issues, we recently corrected the style-inheritance page-break bug that Rick Jelliffe pointed out in his blog post, and that fix has been tested and will appear in our next public update. Regards, Doug -----Original Message----- From: Jan Wildeboer [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com Subject: Re: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MS Office 2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong? So the Plugfest yields some real world improvements? Wow! This is concrete Interop - not abstract Interop based on whatever interpretation in theoretical discussions. I am impressed! Did Microsoft also committed to fixes? It would be good for Interop if they took the chance. Seeing the participant list of the Plugfest, it should be repeated regularly. Maybe Alex Brown wants to join to present the practical implications of his validator approach? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer | EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Otto-Hahn-Str.20 | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 D-85609 Dornach/Munich | eMail: firstname.lastname@example.org _____________________________________________________________________ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Otto-Hahn-Strasse 20, 85609 Dornach bei Muenchen Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane,Charlie Peters,Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _____________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Tue Jun 16 19:03:57 2009 Subject: Re: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MS Office 2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong? marbux <email@example.com> wrote on 06/16/2009 01:16:31 PM: > > Re: [opendocument-users] simple OO.org document goes awry in MS > Office 2007 w/SP2 - what went wrong? > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > So any time the document does not interoperable, the end user cannot tell > > whether it is a bug in the authoring application, or a bug in the > > destination application, and whether any of these bugs are related to the > > standard. The best thing to do is report it to the the vendors involved > > in the transaction, let them debug the issue. If it ends up to be an > > issue in the ODF standard, then they should be able to propose any changes > > necessary. In this particular cases, both vendors participate on the ODF > > TC, so they have direct access to make such technical proposals. > > So I understand it, are you saying that every bug report I or anyone > else sends you on an interop failure between Lotus Symphony and other > ODF implementations will result in you promptly submitting a TC > proposal to fix the relevant spec(s) with as many mandatory interop > requirements as are needed to remove the relevant ambiguity if the > failure is due to an ambiguity or other flaw in the spec, Rob? And > that you'll shepherd that proposal through the TC and implement the > fix? > If you find an interop bug, then you can certainly submit a defect report online at the support forums at http://symphony.lotus.com Of course, those with a support contract will get a more rapid response. But if you write up a defect report, preferably with an example file, then it will certainly be looked at. As for the ODF Plugfest, we tested a number of multi-vendor interop scenarios, found a few bugs, but almost all of them were application errors. I still need to write up the details on the wiki (we were having network connectivity problems), but all the issues we found were traced to their causes and the only ones that I noticed that were due to issues in the standard were issues that we already knew about and have already fixed in ODF 1.2. In any case, you should not expect the ODF TC to take raw customer interop bug reports any more than you would expect the FCC to answer a call from a consumer with a broken radio. You need to talk to your vendor first. -Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: email@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: email@example.com For additional commands, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org