Minutes of OASIS OSLC Automatoin TC 21st October 2014

[Martin P Pain <martinpain@uk.ibm.com>]

The minutes are available here: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-automation/Meetings/Telecon2014.10.21#Minutes

== Resolutions ==

* Minutes of 29th September approved
   
== Minutes ==
 Chair:: Martin Pain
 Scribe:: Steve Speicher
 Attendees:: Martin Pain (IBM), Steve Speicher (IBM), Tim Friessinger (IBM)
 Regrets:: None


=== Topic: review of minutes from 9/23 ===

https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-automation/Meetings/Telecon2014.09.23

No objections, minutes approved


=== Topic: Automation 3.0 Plans ===

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: reviewing how to make things easier to read
and therefore easier to implement

Steve Speicher (IBM): Steve: suggest that we organize/motivate spec to
help minimize the onramp to implement to support some key scenarios, like
making query optional or arranging the spec to make it easier to read

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: reviewing how to break down the spec into
smaller documents, consumable parts

Steve Speicher (IBM): ...options around creating requests, basic/core auto
capability, unattended automation, discovery of plans/actions, ...

Steve Speicher (IBM): Steve: be good if a subset of parts was needed to
support scenarios, so you don't have to read more than you need (easier
to read then).

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: the basic part would have to be done for
all impls but we could try to accomplish this as we go along, and see how
it looks

Steve Speicher (IBM): Tim: what is the difference between basic spec and
how to create requests spec, wouldn't you need to know how to create requests
in basic?

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: the basic will cover a "basic"
case but the additional spec will show all the various permutations

Steve Speicher (IBM): Tim: it would be good to have a single simple prefered
method to create requests in basic spec

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: probably 2 ways, one attended (dialog) or
another unattended (POST to creation factory)

Martin Pain (IBM): Martin: As long as we can keep it concise

Martin Pain (IBM): Martin: Could put non-normative description in basic
document and refer out to other document for normative document, if we
can't keep normative description concise

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: looking for editors/authors for specs

Steve Speicher (IBM): Steve: perhaps after LDP and core 3.0 stuff moves
along

=== Topic: Integration Patterns ===

Steve Speicher (IBM): See https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-automation/IntegrationPatterns

Steve Speicher (IBM): Steve: How does a consumer know when a provider will
execute the request or up to the consumer/agent?

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: it is out of the spec, impl dependent

Steve Speicher (IBM): Related work at open-services.net (although for a
higher-level definition of "Integration patterns"): http://open-services.net/wiki/communications/IntegrationPatterns/

Steve Speicher (IBM): Steve: gave a summary of the "to be done"
higher level integration patterns work through the Comm UG, where one might
be a "Automation a DevOps Pipeline" pattern, which could point
off to these

Steve Speicher (IBM): ...think the current Sequences sound a bit like variations
on scenarios, think we should reference and align with the higher level
IP effort

Steve Speicher (IBM): Steve: will draft up high-level auto integration
pattern to contribute to common efforts

=== Topic: Systems Engineering Update ===

No progress on Systems Engineering work.

=== Topic: High Availability Update ===

Steve Speicher (IBM): Tim: currently updating the draft to meet template
and respec

=== Other business ===

Steve Speicher (IBM): Martin: Sam Padgett sent a proposal for optimization
to the comments list linking the results to the request

Steve Speicher (IBM): ...using a Link relation header

Meeting adjourned until 2 weeks' time.

== Membership changes ==

At the end of this meeting:

 * Members who '''lost''' voting rights:
   * None
 * Members who '''gained''' voting rights:
   * None
 * Leave of Absence
   * None
 * Membership changes
   * '''John Arwe''' (IBM) has left the TC
 * TC summary
   * The TC has 3 voting members, 7 non-voting members, and 5 observers.
 * The latest TC roster is at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oslc-automation/members/roster.php

Next meeting:

 * Members who '''will lose''' voting rights if they do not attend:
   * '''Uri Shani''' (IBM)
 * Members who '''will gain''' voting rights if they attend:
   * '''Tim Friessinger''' (IBM)

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